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I've been reading around and since I can't search, I am just getting more confused.

I want to do some basic recording. Right now all I own is a Yamaha AW16G and a RNC. I use an "OK" microphone but I am not sure what kind of Pre-Amp I need.

I don't want to spend $500.00 but I will if I need to. I saw that I could use a Mackie VLZ or I could use something like the M-Audio Tampa, Presonus Eureka, etc.

My question is, for someone like me that is not a "recording engineer" and I am not making "studio quality" recordings (just OK stuff, demos!), what do I really need?
 
Are you recording into a computer? If so do you have a sound card? If not how many tracks do you want to record at once? Do you have any software?
 
chadsxe said:
Are you recording into a computer? If so do you have a sound card? If not how many tracks do you want to record at once? Do you have any software?
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1. No, straight into my AW16G
2. Yes, I have a sound card but not one I can record through.
3. Just one track at a time. I am recording my own stuff.
4. Right now, Cakewalk 9 but I am looking for something better.

Thanks for the help!
 
Sorry I was not fimilar with the AW16G. Well if your recording into that the need for software and a sound card id mute. The hands down pick for a standalone 2 channel budget mic pre is the M-audio DMP3. It gives you 2 clean mic pre channels for about 180 dollars. You mentioned the Mackie VLZ pro boards. They have pretty good pres in them but if you are only intrested in one track at a time then it would be over kill. Plus the cheapest one is about 300 dollars.
 
chadsxe said:
Sorry I was not fimilar with the AW16G. Well if your recording into that the need for software and a sound card id mute. The hands down pick for a standalone 2 channel budget mic pre is the M-audio DMP3. It gives you 2 clean mic pre channels for about 180 dollars. You mentioned the Mackie VLZ pro boards. They have pretty good pres in them but if you are only intrested in one track at a time then it would be over kill. Plus the cheapest one is about 300 dollars.
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Nod. I could get the DMP3, but if I spent $500.00 would I notice that much of a difference? I have the Really Nice Compressor so I don't "need" another compressor, though I could chain them to help smooth the sound out without ONE compressor working too hard.
 
Funny you guys mentioned both the RNC and the DMP3... cus those are both on my wish list. Do you guys think that's a decent chain for recording Vocals? I'm currently working with an AKG-2000 and the ART TubePac pro...
 
Spent 500 on what? It really depends on how long you have been doing this. For a quick answer I am going to say no your not going to notice the diffrence. You going to get a million diffrent answer but the way I see it jus depends on how commited you are. What are you recording in the first place?
 
scarboro78 said:
Funny you guys mentioned both the RNC and the DMP3... cus those are both on my wish list. Do you guys think that's a decent chain for recording Vocals? I'm currently working with an AKG-2000 and the ART TubePac pro...
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There decent but not great. With that said it does not mean you can't get good recordings out of them. It just depends on what your looking for. Most legit people who answer questions on this board have been doing this for awhile and expect diffren things then you avarage home recorder. The people who just started and are using this type of equipment are usually very happy with the results.
 
chadsxe said:
There decent but not great. With that said it does not mean you can't get good recordings out of them. It just depends on what your looking for. Most legit people who answer questions on this board have been doing this for awhile and expect diffren things then you avarage home recorder. The people who just started and are using this type of equipment are usually very happy with the results.
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Ok you just answered my questions :) I am just making my own demos so I am not looking to make "the Ultimate Creation", I am just looking to make some decent sounding demos.

I mean, I made this with nothing but a mic and my AW16G (don't pay attention to the guitars, it's an RP-7!)



This was without a compressor or pre-amp, so I wonder how it will sound if I redo it with them? Does the DMP-3 work on guitars and basses as well?
 
chadsxe said:
Spent 500 on what? It really depends on how long you have been doing this. For a quick answer I am going to say no your not going to notice the diffrence. You going to get a million diffrent answer but the way I see it jus depends on how commited you are. What are you recording in the first place?
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I just bought the DMP-3 for $159 plus $12.00 shipping. This will work for now :) If I get good I can sell this stuff and buy something better later. Thanks for the help. You saved me $350.00 :D
 
Well yeah, I don't expect true Professional Recordings to come out this equipment... but a pretty damn good demo would be nice! =0) I just want a decent entry level setup to get my feet wet. I just started the whole recording thing and the more I read around the more equipment seem to pop up as the very least of necesities (ie: audiophile 2496, wharfedale 8.2's, rnc, dmp3)...
 
scarboro78 said:
Well yeah, I don't expect true Professional Recordings to come out this equipment... but a pretty damn good demo would be nice! =0) I just want a decent entry level setup to get my feet wet. I just started the whole recording thing and the more I read around the more equipment seem to pop up as the very least of necesities (ie: audiophile 2496, wharfedale 8.2's, rnc, dmp3)...
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Well I am glad to see you have been reading. Like I said it all depends on what you want. I think the best path to take for anyone who is just strating to get into recording is to read read and read. Then get the so called "budget standard" equipment (Dmp3, Rnc, M-audio sound card etc..) and record record record. When your ready to move onto better equipment you will know.
 
SilverSurfer said:
I just bought the DMP-3 for $159 plus $12.00 shipping. This will work for now :) If I get good I can sell this stuff and buy something better later. Thanks for the help. You saved me $350.00 :D
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Most of us hear will say you made a good purchase. Quality for the price the DMP3 is great. Learn how to get the most out of what you got then move on to better equipment.
 
chadsxe said:
Well I am glad to see you have been reading. Like I said it all depends on what you want. I think the best path to take for anyone who is just strating to get into recording is to read read and read. Then get the so called "budget standard" equipment (Dmp3, Rnc, M-audio sound card etc..) and record record record. When your ready to move onto better equipment you will know.
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The above is exactly where I am now (DMP3-RNC-Delta 1010). I make recordings for my own personal pleasure. I do expect to upgrade in the future but right now I'm in a happy place. Of course I will always want to continue to upgrade my mics. GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) is sometimes difficult to bear but wonderful to relieve. :D
 
JohnnyMan said:
The above is exactly where I am now (DMP3-RNC-Delta 1010). I make recordings for my own personal pleasure. I do expect to upgrade in the future but right now I'm in a happy place. Of course I will always want to continue to upgrade my mics. GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) is sometimes difficult to bear but wonderful to relieve. :D
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What's a Delta 1010?

I am using a Mark 319 condesor mic. I will soon have my DMP-3 and my RNC linked up so I can slap out some decent vocals.

Can I use the DMP-3 and RNC for guitar and bass work?!
 
SilverSurfer said:
What's a Delta 1010?

I am using a Mark 319 condesor mic. I will soon have my DMP-3 and my RNC linked up so I can slap out some decent vocals.

Can I use the DMP-3 and RNC for guitar and bass work?!
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Yes you can use the DMP3 on vocals, guitar, bass, or anything else that you micing. The Delta 1010 is a sound card made m-audio. It has ten balanced I/O's on a breakout box. The budget version of that is the Delta 1010LT which is the same but has a breakout cable in place of a box and is unbalanced.
 
Hey I posted this question in another thread... maybe one of you guys can give me an answer...

How do you guys feel about the Joe Meek Pre/Compressor combo.. it's only in the 200 buck range and I hear nothing but good things about it. Would anyone suggest getting this instead of a rnc/dmp3 combination (about 350 bucks together)..?
 
scarboro78 said:
Hey I posted this question in another thread... maybe one of you guys can give me an answer...

How do you guys feel about the Joe Meek Pre/Compressor combo.. it's only in the 200 buck range and I hear nothing but good things about it. Would anyone suggest getting this instead of a rnc/dmp3 combination (about 350 bucks together)..?
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Although I do not own one or have never used one I have read desent review but none to the extent of the dmp3 and rnc.
 
chadsxe said:
Although I do not own one or have never used one I have read desent review but none to the extent of the dmp3 and rnc.
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That's true... I guess if the Joe Meek were THAT great of a piece of equipment I would be seeing alot more posts about it.. :D
 
I would definitely buy the RNP.... IF! I had 500 bucks to spare... (if i'm not mistaken on the cost)..
 
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