Nuendo can compress input signal, outboard neccessary?

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I'm wondering if the fact that Nuendo can put inserts (such as compressors) on the input channel, and record with the effect permanently on the track, would that essentially do the same thing that an outboard compressor would do?
 
It's not compressing on the way in - It's after the converters.

It's the same thing as putting a compressor plug on the track after it's recorded - Except if you do it while you're recording, you're stuck with it.
 
Is it actually permanent or just processing it live?
 
I would imagine it would be permanent if the plug in was on the inout signal, but like Massive said, it is still post converter so it won't stop clipping in the A/D section.
 
I'm actually hoping he isn't trying to compress to get "more level" at the input in the first place...

But I guess I shouldn't assume such things. I can only hope... :)
 
Nuendo 2.0 and later can infact compress with a plugin on the way in. As noted, it's after the converters and is indeed permanent.

it's just like applying a compression plugin directly to the track (right click->plugins->compressor).

in terms of "being stuck with the compression on the way in" it will work just like an outboard compressor. however, it will NOT compress prior to the converters, so it does NOT work like an outboard compressor would in terms of maximizing signal on the way in.

my advice--forget about compressing on the way in with Nuendo. if you have to compress on the way in, get something outboard.


cheers,
wade
 
Thanks guys, I'm recording a bandoneon, which is an Argentine button box accordion for tango. It has a huge dynamic range, so I'll probably pick up an RNC.
 
an RNC is a very nice, transparent compressor. i've got a love/hate relationship with mine.

are you playing the bandoneon yourself? or are you recording someone else playing? if the latter, any reason you can't just ride the gain along with the dynamics of the song? if the former, and you're recording yourself, maybe instead of compressing, you could move closer and farther from the mic in conjunction with the louds/softs.

most usually, i prefer employing mic and mic preamp technique to compressing. although, i'm certainly not scared to compress to tape when i want to.


cheers,
wade
 
Why would anyone do that? Was this a marketing trick to make people think they would be getting front end compression? Man, post converter destructive compression while tracking, brilliant idea. :rolleyes:
 
Someone else will be playing, but I wouldn't really trust myself to ride the gain properly. I think I'll get other uses out of the compressor anyway. Will it be good for recording my own voice? Will there be a noticeable difference between the RNC and plugins? It'd be paired with a DMP3. Also, I know that there are tutorials on compression available online, but does anyone have any particular recommendations?
 
Robert D said:
Why would anyone do that? Was this a marketing trick to make people think they would be getting front end compression? Man, post converter destructive compression while tracking, brilliant idea. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, surely there must be some logical reason.. a "Worst of Both Worlds" feature.
 
Robert D said:
Why would anyone do that? Was this a marketing trick to make people think they would be getting front end compression? Man, post converter destructive compression while tracking, brilliant idea. :rolleyes:
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The option is there for plugins like amp modelers or something you need to monitor while playing. Using the option for a compressor plugin is just silly.
 
tromostheory said:
Thanks guys, I'm recording a bandoneon, which is an Argentine button box accordion for tango. It has a huge dynamic range, so I'll probably pick up an RNC.
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I wouldn't record a bondoneon (or any related instruments) through a compressor for money. That huge dynamic range is what it's all about. If it *must* have compression to fit into the mix later, you can always add it. But if you set the "loud" parts at around -12 and the rest of it is riding at -20 or -24, that's more than wonderful...
 
Massive Master said:
I'm actually hoping he isn't trying to compress to get "more level" at the input in the first place...
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aye, but there's nowt wrong with printing with compression otherwise...if you're REALLY sure about wanting to keep the result on that take forever.
 
True, there is nothing wrong with printing with compression if you know you really want it. However, to do it with a basic software comp that could just as well have been used during the mix seems very silly.
 
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