nothing like the new jersey beach

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Hi All: I spent last week at the New Jersey beach visiting family. My grandfather owned a small bungalo in ortley beach. We would go there for summers and those times were the best of my childhood. I loved surfing/bodysurfing, fishing, going to the seaside heights boardwalk, eating good pizza and italian food, listening to the 50-60's italian crooners sitting underneath the beach clubs they played....... I did it all over again last week. the new jersey shore is still a secret most of the country doesn't have a clue about. This song is about those memories.

nothing like the new jersey beach
this stinking job I have
 
walter, let's deal with this little "1,000,000 songs and growing" thing, shall we?

you claim to be a 51-year-old man. this means you have been alive for roughly 18,615 days (51x365). in order to have written a million songs, you would have to write on average 53.72 songs per day. this is assuming you fell right out of your momma's womb with a guitar and a tascam 4-track and got right down to business.
it takes most of us a few years to figure out the basics (ie: potty training, eating solid food) and that's not even taking into account time you spend working (you must earn a living somehow), sleeping, and infirmed. all that taken into consideration, i'm going to say the amount of songs that you must have had to write per day since puttin on the boots musta been around 65 (3.6 songs per hour, assuming you sleep 6 hours a night and have never done anything but write and play music.
could this even be possible?
are you maybe stretching the definition of a song? for instance, suppose i decide that every time i fart it's a song. by that definition, i sometimes write 10 "songs" a day. maybe it's only the cream of the crop that makes the soundclick cut.
anyways, who knows. seems like you have a good thing going, i'm just finding the million songs thing tough to swallow. i guess "Walter Tore's Spontobeat - over 371 songs and growing" doesn't have the same ring, though it would still be impressive.
 
fat_fleet said:
walter, let's deal with this little "1,000,000 songs and growing" thing, shall we?

you claim to be a 51-year-old man. this means you have been alive for roughly 18,615 days (51x365). in order to have written a million songs, you would have to write on average 53.72 songs per day. this is assuming you fell right out of your momma's womb with a guitar and a tascam 4-track and got right down to business.
it takes most of us a few years to figure out the basics (ie: potty training, eating solid food) and that's not even taking into account time you spend working (you must earn a living somehow), sleeping, and infirmed. all that taken into consideration, i'm going to say the amount of songs that you must have had to write per day since puttin on the boots musta been around 65 (3.6 songs per hour, assuming you sleep 6 hours a night and have never done anything but write and play music.
could this even be possible?
are you maybe stretching the definition of a song? for instance, suppose i decide that every time i fart it's a song. by that definition, i sometimes write 10 "songs" a day. maybe it's only the cream of the crop that makes the soundclick cut.
anyways, who knows. seems like you have a good thing going, i'm just finding the million songs thing tough to swallow. i guess "Walter Tore's Spontobeat - over 371 songs and growing" doesn't have the same ring, though it would still be impressive.
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wow, I never was any good at math. I am moved you took the time to calculate all this. I live in multiple universes and times and have been reincarnated many times over. I keep coming back as a musician.......... Seriously, I have struggled to convince the music business to open its mind to what I do and the "over 1 million songs and growing" just came to me one day and it made me giggle so I used it. I have since given up trying to convince the business and learned a lot from the experience like - who is to say what is right or wrong for a song? For me, it is me. It starts and stops there. If people want to please others, get reconized, find fame, acceptance, then one is almost guaranteed having to let go of what is really inside and accomodate those that can get you to these places. I will stick to my thing and count on being the 1 in a billion winner that can do what they want and make it in the business( I am hoping it happens in about 10 years when I retire). I continue what I do because it simply feels as good today as it did as when I started playing music. If the business comes my way fine, if not, maybe in another reincarnation it will happen :-). Walter
 
Walter Tore said:
I will stick to my thing and count on being the 1 in a billion winner that can do what they want and make it in the business( I am hoping it happens in about 10 years when I retire).
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i truly truly hope this happens for you. in my experiences 98% of the people that make money/reputations playing music are able to do so because they're suckasses (anyone who could possibly be offended by that i'm sure fits into the other 2%). the ones who truly do it for themselves only gain recognition after they're dead or crazy.
 
fat_fleet said:
i truly truly hope this happens for you. in my experiences 98% of the people that make money/reputations playing music are able to do so because they're suckasses (anyone who could possibly be offended by that i'm sure fits into the other 2%). the ones who truly do it for themselves only gain recognition after they're dead or crazy.
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thanks and that is true what you said. Dead is better than crazy, but being crazy and then dead is even better from a business view-total control over the product. I belive much of the greatest art, music, poetry, is lost forever because it simply got thrown away or was used to start a winters fire because the artists were unknown for whatever reasons. I feel blessed to have found something that inspires me beyond any lure of money or compromise. I am now a special education teacher and feel a connection to the autistic students. They do the same things over and over simply because it makes them feel better to do it than not, and in many cases keeps them from uncharted levels of confusion and pain. I am the same way with my music. I need to do it. I get an incredible amount of postitive responses on the net about my music (and am very touched that people take the time to check out what I do). I also get regular ( a small amount, but steady) critisism on the net about the way I do music. Usually it is that I need to learn how to diversify my sound, overdub, sound more polished, properly write, arrange, produce and record music. I guess it just pushes peoples buttons about order. My music doesn't fit in any of their music folders. It never ceases to amaze me how conservative and rigid most musicians and music business people are. That is ok, because I just got to keep doing it or lose my mind, no lie. Walter
 
just wanted to let walter know that i also have a ton of good memories at the jersey shore. for what it is, it kicks ass.
 
Ortley Beach

Walter,

I'm gonna bet you a buck that my uncle made some of those pizzas you consumed in Ortley Beach.

Do you remember the pizzeria at the corner of 6th Avenue & Rt 35 North, inland from The Surf Club?

It hasn't been there for years, but when you (and me) were kids......that was my uncles pizzeria!
 
Bartman said:
Walter,

I'm gonna bet you a buck that my uncle made some of those pizzas you consumed in Ortley Beach.

Do you remember the pizzeria at the corner of 6th Avenue & Rt 35 North, inland from The Surf Club?

It hasn't been there for years, but when you (and me) were kids......that was my uncles pizzeria!
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That is wild Bartman! We always went to Costi's on bay blvd. You know how that is- you pick you place and stay to it. My gradfathers house was just up the street on harding ave. I remember your uncles place and the surf club well. I wish I tried his pie, but as a kid I never had a dime. We use to pull the plug on the cigarette machines at teh Acme and then plug them in and get the change. That would fund our pinball at the seaside boardwalk (5 games for a quater) and illegal beer purchases. Do you make your own pizza? I make my own and am about 90% accurate to a Jersey pie. Walter
 
fat_fleet said:
...are you maybe stretching the definition of a song? for instance, suppose i decide that every time i fart it's a song. by that definition, i sometimes write 10 "songs" a day. maybe it's only the cream of the crop that makes the soundclick cut...
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I admit I guffawed when I read this line! Fleet I think you're possibly taking Walter's tag line a bit too literally...:)

When I first joined SoundClick and ran across Walter's page I was amazed at how prolific he was. And the fact that the songs were good, distinct and varied was even more amazing. The guy has talent and I love his moxie to come out and play the vaudevillian "one man band" with an authentic twist.
Walt has a great voice and his harp playing is unreal. I hear touches of Sunny Boy and Butterfield, but it's very original at the same time.

Keep it up Walter!
 
fat_fleet said:
walter, let's deal with this little "1,000,000 songs and growing" thing, shall we?

you claim to be a 51-year-old man. this means you have been alive for roughly 18,615 days (51x365). in order to have written a million songs, you would have to write on average 53.72 songs per day. this is assuming you fell right out of your momma's womb with a guitar and a tascam 4-track and got right down to business.
it takes most of us a few years to figure out the basics (ie: potty training, eating solid food) and that's not even taking into account time you spend working (you must earn a living somehow), sleeping, and infirmed. all that taken into consideration, i'm going to say the amount of songs that you must have had to write per day since puttin on the boots musta been around 65 (3.6 songs per hour, assuming you sleep 6 hours a night and have never done anything but write and play music.
could this even be possible?
are you maybe stretching the definition of a song? for instance, suppose i decide that every time i fart it's a song. by that definition, i sometimes write 10 "songs" a day. maybe it's only the cream of the crop that makes the soundclick cut.
anyways, who knows. seems like you have a good thing going, i'm just finding the million songs thing tough to swallow. i guess "Walter Tore's Spontobeat - over 371 songs and growing" doesn't have the same ring, though it would still be impressive.
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You have a point. The fact is, they're all the same song. Like you said, it's easy to call anything that ends up on tape a "song". Take the same 1-4-5 progression and "write" 5,000 different "songs", and now you can claim you're a "Bluesman". :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
JRSIV said:
I admit I guffawed when I read this line! Fleet I think you're possibly taking Walter's tag line a bit too literally...:)

When I first joined SoundClick and ran across Walter's page I was amazed at how prolific he was. And the fact that the songs were good, distinct and varied was even more amazing. The guy has talent and I love his moxie to come out and play the vaudevillian "one man band" with an authentic twist.
Walt has a great voice and his harp playing is unreal. I hear touches of Sunny Boy and Butterfield, but it's very original at the same time.

Keep it up Walter!
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thanks John! I think I was a vaudville guy in a past life. Walter
 
RAMI said:
You have a point. The fact is, they're all the same song. Like you said, it's easy to call anything that ends up on tape a "song". Take the same 1-4-5 progression and "write" 5,000 different "songs", and now you can claim you're a "Bluesman". :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I could say the same thing about heavy metal. It all sounds the same and usually hurts my ears too. This is the great thing about art. Each of us has a valid opinion and each artist, if they chose to follow their heart, can show a unique take on life because only you are you and no one else ever can touch that no matter how hard they try to copy it. Whatever the piece does for you is gospel. This is why I chuckle at the whole music business thing. A few haunchos sit down and decide what is the gospel, and most listeners and musicians blindly follow. My music is simple, repetitive, but everytime I sit down to play, it feels fresh. So why would I ever leave such a special place? It is my one place on this earth where things are consistently peaceful, refreshing, insightful, and exciting. I feel truly blessed to have found and followed this spontaneous approach to art (and life). Walter
 
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