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[binauralsystem]

Hi there, first time poster.

Long time guitar player, recently looked at the computer, and said, hey, you are going to help me record stuff. Now make it so.

recently got my hands on a Yamaha DSP Factory 2416 card. I put in my my PowerMac G4 2x450 Mhz, 640 Mram. have standard disk drive as came with stock unit.

Apparently only runs in Classic 9.0 for Mac. I usually run Jaguar. What is ASIO? What is its function?

Question, does running in 9.0 Classic not fully utilize the dual processors?

I seem to be missing something to get this thing running. I've tried downloading drivers from Yamaha. Do i need another software like Logic, CuBase, etc.

What about shareware? I've looked at some of these big names, and they want some pretty serious $$$

I want to be able to record cds and be able to record tracks and remix them.

What about Pro Tools Free? Can that be used on a Mac alone, or is some sound card (hopefully the yamaha) is helpful to using more than the built-in mic on the mac.

I did a search on Yamaha DSP. Good lord, man. that thing was expensive when it came out in 2000. i got it for nothing. probably nothing that I can buy will run it anymore, either. its worth a shot.

I'm quite sure this card is probably pretty shabby by the latest standards, but apparently it was supposed to have the internals of a top-flight system. If this is anyway near true, that it is more than sufficient for me.

Once I get this thing going, then I'll peruse the advice on mics, pres, compressors, mixers, peripherals, interface control surfaces, the whole ball of wax. I'm dragging my knuckles as I hitchhike the internet superhighway, trying to avoid the killers on the road.

Ok, its late. :0

BTW - I copied this from the forum where I mistakenly put it the first time. I've requested for it to be moved here. If you see the post duplicated, please pay no mind to the man behind the curtain.

 

[Stealthtech]

ASIO Drivers are multichannel, multimedia sound drivers that allows third-party audio programs which support the ASIO standard to record and play back Full-duplex recordings and playback of 24- and 16-bit audio tracks supported at sample rates supported by the hardware.
Dont know much about Macs, but these cards have onbaord proccessing which takes some of the load off the CPU.
If you get it working, its a good card.
If it did not come with a software recording program, you will need to get one.
Pro tools will work well with Macs if thats something your interested in. In fact Protools was designed for the mac although now it offers WIN systems too.

 

[mshilarious]

Yamaha DSP Factory

I've got the Yamaha card, actually I've got two of them. They aren't state-of-the-art, but they are far from obsolete. The card is 44.1 or 48 sample rate, and uses 32 bit processing, and has 20 bit A/D converters

Basically, what you've got is a 24 channel, 8 bus digital mixer and 2 stereo effects processors on a card. The card only has four physical inputs and outputs (stereo analog and stereo digital), but it is expandable with some outboard gear. The card is capable of recording eight simultaneous tracks, playback 16, and has compression, delay, and EQ available on each channel with no CPU use.

You do need some software to use the card, Yamaha purposely didn't provide any. Many of the usual software programs provide an interface for the card.

I like the card quite a bit (obviously). It's great for analog recording, but you will need a front end such as a mixer. If you want to record more than two analog tracks at once, you'll have to invest in Yamaha's AX44 breakout box, which gives you 4 more analog ins and outs.

Check these sites for more info:

http://www.xgfactory.com/html/comp/drivers/driv_f.htm

http://www.yamaha.com/ycaservice/group013/fgrop013.htm

http://www.ampfea.org/pipermail/dspfact-list/

 

[binauralsystem]

thanks for reply

tonight, i upgraded my toast titanium with Jam 5.0. as a bonus, i also got Peak LE from Bias. will this have the ASIO drivers I need to get my yamaha working? by the way, I have the AX44. still in the box. didn't want anything else cluttering the desk until i made sure i got get some action going with the card.

I have a mackie vlz1202 Pro mixer, tascam 424, j-station, pod 2.0, SansAmp (original), about a dozen mics. I'd like to be able to start recording guitar parts and composing and arranging them on my computer.

Using the AX44, how many inputs can i physically connect at once to my computer?

can you hook more than one AX44 per card?

thanks again for your help, it is very appreciated.

 

[mshilarious]

The AX44 adds 4 analog ins and 4 analog outs. These are 1/4" unbalanced.

Combined with the 2 analog ins and outs on the card (RCA), that's 6 ins and out.

You can use 2 AX44s per card, which would give you 10 ins and outs (although the card only has 8 busses, so you can't get 10 different outs, if that makes sense). The AX44 also has a headphone amp, which, quite honestly, isn't that great, but you can send 2 outs back to the Mackie and use that for monitoring.

Yamaha also made a companion card AX16 which accepts ADAT lightpipe input, giving you 8 digital ins and outs if you have a digital mixer.

Finally you can combine 2 DSP cards together to get 32 track playback and 4 effects processors, as well as 4 AX44 or AX16 expansion box/cards. Still only 8 track simultaneous recording though.

So you could get an AX44 and hook up your Mackie L-R and aux 1 & 2 and get 4 inputs into the Yamaha card. I've used this setup for years, although my mixer has 12 mic ins so I've had to submix before sending to the card.

The trick is finding an AX44. DSP factory cards and AX44s sell on eBay all the time, but you don't see too many orphan AX44s for sale. The two usually go for around $200-250 together.

Anyway, use the RCA ins from the Mackie and get some software and play with the card to see if you like its EQ, effects, and compressors before you buy an AX44.

If you don't, then the card isn't that useful, especially if you have a fast processor. The point of the DSP Factory was it took all of the processing load off of CPU back when most people only had 200 mHz CPUs, and sounded pretty good in the process.