Noise Gates

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OK my question is on noise gates. now on noise gates are they used usualy on evrey insturment so that when their not playing theres no amp noise and the same for drums so when youre recording live you dont pick up the guitar amps. how would you set them for drums, or any insturment for that matter?
 
OK here we go. Noise gates set a sound level threshold for opening a mic. channel. The best example of when to use one in a live situation is on back-up vocal channels or on tom mics.
I don't think you would ever put one "on every insturment" - that is not really necessary. In a recording situation you would probably only need them for toms. Sometimes if the hi-hat mic is picking up too much snare (or vice-versa) and you're noise gate allows, you can tune the frequency repsone of the noise gate to only pick up the higher frequencies of the hi-hat.
Understand?
 
Interesting

you can tune the frequency repsone of the noise gate to only pick up the higher frequencies of the hi-hat.
I didn't know that. Can this help a live recording (band in studio together) by stopping instruments being picked up on each others mikes?
Obviously booths help sound isolation, but it amazes me they can contain a drum kit for example.
 
Gates can be life savers in a live situation, but you have to be careful when using them for recording. The problem with them is that they can sometimes be too slow, this is beacuse the trigger circuit has to wait till it hears a signal and only then does it open the gate, this means that sometimes you lose the first part of the sound.
Secondly, If you are trying to fix a leakage problem which is really bad it means that the level of background noise on the channel is going to be pretty close to the level of the instrument that you are recording, this means that you have to set the threshold pretty 'tight', that is, just below the level of the instument but just above the leakage, the problem here is that if the player is 'dynamic' and plays the occasional note a little softer, the gate won't open and you will miss the notes completely.

In recording situations it is more common to record the tracks 'as is', leakage and all, and then automate the mixer's ( or PC's ) 'mutes' later. Alternately on a PC you can open the tracks in a wave editor and clean them up.
 
I have learned, thru trial and many errors, as well as advice on this board that gates kinda suck in recording. As for drums, Vox is right in saying take the leakage and all. If you're recording yer own band, you know the sound you're looking for is usually the sound you get live, when everyone is all charged up and the energy could potentially kill an innocent by-stander. Unless your ears have built-in gates, you hear the drums in all their overlapping glory and gateing them will screw up the works.

check out this thread...

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=26634

It deals more with compression, but the same lessons can be applied to gates.
 
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