Newbie here & I'd value some opinions on my tunages

[VCFOE(rob)]

It's been a while since I lurked here...I wonder if anyone remembers Visual Cliff from 2002 when I first shared some tunes with you all. I look forward to getting back into this site and tap into the wellspring of talent and experience thats here. Well there has been alot more produced since 2002 and I am always up for learning how to get better at this stuff...

Since my initial batch of tunes I have upgraded the home studio with a couple nice Royer R121 mics, a Grace Preamp, Roland XR Sound Module and my new Randall RM50 amp and Line 6 Vetta II Combo. I no longer use the Johnson J-Station or Lexicon MPX G2 as my only sources for recording guitar.

I hope you all dig how far I think I have come along...Check out some new stuff via the links below and feel free to flame it up!

Best Wishes,
Rob

Here are a couple mp3s to check out...

Visual Cliff

Fall Of Echoes

http://www.guitaristworks.com//play.php?mode=song_hifi&band_id=31&song_id=568



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http://www.visualcliff.net
http://www.fallofechoes.com

 

[rayc]

Visual Cliff - nice recording job good song too. I like it all except the guitar sound - it's a bit generic.
Good FX, good singing & mixing - maye a few too many ideas for one song though.
Wewll done mate.

 

[VCFOE(rob)]

Generic in what sense? Please let me know what you think it needs! I'm hip for getting your take on it! Thanks!

I appreciate you checking them out!

 

[rayc]

Generic in that they sound like all the other metal guitars. Everyone seems to own the same pedal or plugin.
I know that the distortion effects available are appalling & that most FX units have lousy ones as well - all need tweaking. I just wish someone would listen to & try to get ideas from 70's era Slade, Kossof in Free, almost all Mick Ronson, Iommi on the 1st three Sabbath records etc. There are a million guitar sounds out there but most people seem to ,as I said, subscribe to a single sound or very slight variations of it. Hey, I know it's popular & it really pulls the metal heads ito the song BUT it points to a creative abyss when I listen.

 

[Greg_L]

Generic in that they sound like all the other metal guitars. Everyone seems to own the same pedal or plugin.
I know that the distortion effects available are appalling & that most FX units have lousy ones as well - all need tweaking. I just wish someone would listen to & try to get ideas from 70's era Slade, Kossof in Free, almost all Mick Ronson, Iommi on the 1st three Sabbath records etc. There are a million guitar sounds out there but most people seem to ,as I said, subscribe to a single sound or very slight variations of it. Hey, I know it's popular & it really pulls the metal heads ito the song BUT it points to a creative abyss when I listen.

i agree 100%. if i didnt know any better id swear it was the exact same player, guitar, and amp in every one of todays metal bands.


anyway, good job on the songs.

 

[VCFOE(rob)]

I'm recording with a Randall RM50 using the more classic preamp modules. But I here ya...seems all the dudes out there have to own a Mesa Recto. Interesting thoughts on the chunk sound as I mix the Randall with elements from class A sounds out of my Vetta II Combo. I'm not a fan of the fuzzy sound and I try to accentuate the mids more than the A-typical scooped V curve.

It's all subjective for sure!