New Song - Feeback Appreciated!!

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Sounds really good...lots of good stuff going on in this song.
I found the vocal sometimes a little flat and I think some harmonies would really re-inforce the melody on the chorus part.
A high voice on the " I call your name" would sound really good.
Love the trebly guitar.
There's a lot of good things going on in this song.
I enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td0JjeEZvfo
 
theTAKT

You're not here for feedback, you're here to generate hits on your YouTube page.. let's not pretend otherwise.:spank:
 
Armistice,

:confused: <- That's me.

Not sure what you're talking about since I didn't even post a youtube link...

I'm here because it's a home recording forum and this is a song writing thread.
 
Apologies... TAKT, posted without looking hard enough and saw the YouTube link on the post after yours and I'm a bit over noobs arriving and using this place to boost their profiles. My bad. :spank:me

As for your song, it sounds fine - why do you want feedback? It's already recorded... isn't it a bit late for songwriting feedback?

FWIW

It's a pleasant MOR pop tune that follows a standard structure and wouldn't be out of place in any number of radio station playlists - I think you had the opportunity to do something more interesting between 3.00 and 3.20 in the instrumental break and didn't take it - I'd rethink that - and I really like the last 4 seconds where the drumming pattern changes it up a gear (seriously) - do more of that - there's a risk that you sound the same as a million other bands the way it is... mind you, I write both pop and instrumental songs so I do hear the instrumental bits and regard them as important, but what do I know?

I'd try to find a way to differentiate yourself from all the other bands that sound sort of like this.

Good luck, and apologies again for growling at you... :drunk:
 
StevenJacksonMu - Thank's for the feedback. I totally agree with what you said. I too found myself sounding flat throughout the song. I definitely think adding some harmonies to the chorus would have helped too.

Armistice - I really appreciated your feedback as well. I've said to my wife in the past that my current style makes me sound like a lamer version of a lot of other great musicians. I'm still searching for that unique ingredient.. I'm really just starting out, so hopefully I'll find it eventually.

The reason I am asking for feedback after my song is recorded is because I don't really know how I can expect someone to give me pointers on my song "in theory". I want feedback on the full package. I'm just beginning to record my own stuff and the feedback I receive helps me to re-adjust and re-shape my complete style, not just one particular song.

While I am a newb to this forum and really to original song writing and recording, I've been around music for a while. My father was a drummer and my grandfather was a blues guitarist/vocalist. Neither of them played as a profession, but they loved it and I believe rocked it as a hobby. I played drums in a cover band from the time I was 16 through my early twenties. Now I'm 26. Since then I've picked up guitar, bass and piano and over the past few years I've been writing a lot and thought it would be fun to start trying to record full songs and maybe even play out at some local venues (bars, clubs, restaurants, etc).

I know that I'm not the best vocalist, guitarist, bassist, pianist, drummer in the world (far, far from it)... but I do think that I have the ability to be a great song writer someday. I'd be lying if I said, "I never dream of one my songs hitting the mainstream." Anyone who has ever said that is a liar, regardless of how they believe it makes them sound. However, I can honestly say that my only goal is to write music that people will enjoy so that I can play out as a hobby. I always enjoyed playing covers and we definitely had a decent following, but my real dream has always been to put myself out there with original music and to have people connect with it.

I'm just in the beginning of the process now... and feedback and criticism is the only way to improve. Thanks again for your help! :)
 
theTAKT

You're not here for feedback, you're here to generate hits on your YouTube page.. let's not pretend otherwise.:spank:


I gave honest critiscm to this song which I liked by the way.
I listened to the song which should be obvious from my response.
I did give a link to a YouTube video....BUT...nobody is forcing anybody to listen to it....it's YOUR choice.
And of course I want people to listen to my music, why wouldn't I ?
That's why I create it in the first place !.

Peace
 
So it's just you then? Well that can work both ways - the advantage is you can visualise exactly what you want to do without having to deal with others, the disadvantage is unless you're really good at everything you might be limiting your options.

Work with your strengths, I reckon...

Sounds like your original entree into music was via drums - so go with that. Seriously, that little skip beat in the last 3 or 4 seconds changed my whole opinion of the song and the person playing it because it was unusual..

A lot of great bands had great drummers who added more to the songs than just rhythm - The Who for instance - I love their hits but most of their album stuff bores me because I don't think Townsend was all that knowledgable a guitarist and only occasionally struck gold with his combinations (so shoot me!) - but you hear a lot of interesting Keith Moon flailing in all the "wrong" places (according to popular theory) - he's always doing interesting stuff behind Daltrey's singing and keeping it simple when there's no singing... adds to the tension. The Police - Stewart Copeland's drumming made that band in my opinion - no-one's every really drummed exactly like that before or since in pop/rock - so you can add lots of interesting stuff via drumming if you're not super confident on guitar / bass / keys etc. being my point...

And you don't sound like a "lamer" version of anyone, but it does sound a little formulaic.

OK, if you're in the market for feedback, let me delve deeper. This is all just my opinion, so take it as you will:

So the first 20 seconds repeats the same 2 bars 4 times... it's bog standard pop song opening structure and I just know at the end of the fourth time you're about to start singing because I've heard a million songs do exactly the same thing... so there's nothing there that actually grabs the listener - if they don't like your melody (and there's nothing wrong with it but it's also just a standard guitar chord pick out) you could maybe crash to a stop on beat 1 of bar 8, do an interesting drum fill and then onto the singing bit.

Alternatively you could layer a different guitar melody over repetitions 2 and 4 of the intro - that would keep people wondering - or do both...

At about 0.45 when you're launching into the second verse, I would stop the guitar melody - drop it out - it's a simple melody and it gets played a lot in the song, so it's not there in the first verse, play it once in between and leave it out of the second... and change up the drumming in between the verses... do that little shuffly thing from the end... it will just keep people focused... "don't go away... something good's coming"

Keep the second section the way it is with the melody happening over the fourth verse (I assume you're following my counting here...). Consider not having the fourth verse at all... as launching back into the chorus will be a bit of surprise...

At 2.40 you go into a bridge section and the style of melody changes.. good, but there's an opportunity here to add something different to give it a diffferent texture... maybe another siimpler melody at a lower pitch with a dirty humbucker pickup over in the left side to tie it down a bit - it's suffering from a bit of over sweetness at this stage (again IMHO).

Mix your cymbals a bit differently... I was going to suggest you stop beating on the hi hats in the chorus and bridge, then I realised that you had, in fact, switched to ride... which is what I would have suggested... but you can't really tell from the mix, so the textural change is somewhat diluted...

At 3.00 as I said earlier - a real opportunity to inject something different in that little instrumental bit... hit some toms or something and consider again another guitar part, perhaps in the second half only of each bar, and changing each bar - doesn't have to be anything too difficult...

In the ending from 3.37, consider a call / response vocal addition rather than a harmony - "I'm calling out your name (I'm calling out your name) nobody's there..." - that sort of thing...

Good double pumping of the drums at the end as I've already said.

There you go... detailed feedback - take it or leave it, but I think you have the bones of a good song there, you just need to differentiate it a little from everyone else's...

Good luck!:D
 
Thanks!!

Armistice,

Thanks a million for that great feedback! It gave me a lot to think about. Since I'm recording the entire song on my own, it's awesome to get a fellow musician/song writer's opinion.

I get what your saying... I need to keep it interesting and mix it up more. I've noticed that most of my stuff sounds pretty formulaic (beyond this song)... So this is something I'm really going to focus on changing.

I'm going to keep these suggestions with the song and revisit it in a little while (maybe a few weeks)... I've been spending too much time on this particular song lately, and it's becoming a tiny bit mondane. For now, I'm going to work on some of the newer stuff I've been coming up with and keep your suggestions in mind... I'll let you know once I make some of the suggested changes to "Calling Out" so you can listen to the results.

Thanks again man! I really appreciate it! :)
 
I gave honest critiscm to this song which I liked by the way.
I listened to the song which should be obvious from my response.
I did give a link to a YouTube video....BUT...nobody is forcing anybody to listen to it....it's YOUR choice.
And of course I want people to listen to my music, why wouldn't I ?
That's why I create it in the first place !.

Peace

I wasn't talking to you Steven.... :spank:

I made a mistake with theTAKT's post and have apologised for said mistake. We've both moved on.
 
I wasn't talking to you Steven.... :spank:

I made a mistake with theTAKT's post and have apologised for said mistake. We've both moved on.

No problem....and I probably do indeed deserve the spank !!!!:D
 
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