New Nady Studio Monitors?

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Has anyone checked these out? They have passive(sm120) and active models(sm250a). The active model is 100W biamped with 6.5" woofers and 1" Ferro fluid-cooled, soft-dome shielded tweeters. The local music store in my area had them on sale for $220. Apparently they've just begun shipping them and I've only seen them online for sale at ebay.

I've read how important good monitors are, but on a tight budget, I'm wondering if these would be a better value than the M-Audio BX5's. You can read more about them at:

http://www.nady.com/products/product_pgs/new_speakers_pg.html

Thanks
 
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My experience with NADY is that they suck. They are cheap reproductions of real trustworthy equipment. That being said, They may be trying to forge into the highend equipment market. A market they have completely ignored. Most manufacturers offer an array of stuff from the obscenly perfect to the almost doesnt work catagory. Maybe they are trying to bring up thier status as an electronic manufacturer. I hope thats true. The downside would be that if they do gain some sort of notariety newbies that have never heard of them outside of there notariety might assume that everything they make is great.
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Just for your info... I picked up a pair of BX5s for $270 last week, after reading mostly good reviews of them, for a tight space in my home studio. I couldn't be happier with them and like them better than my Alesis M1s despite the cheaper cost and smaller size. The EQ options allow me to set them up for my home studio, and I get a nice tight bass if I place them near the wall. More bass would be nice in a way, but then again, sometimes more bass can really cloud things up in small room, like mine. Also, 5" speakers can only do so much, but these really do pump some low hz for their size if placed near a wall.

Haven't heard the Nadys, but did read a good review of the small Resolvs today. The problem I had, while searching for cheap monitors, was that most in this price range, like the Events, don't allow any EQ tweaking, which I like and need. I don't know if the Nadys do, but you might want to check this out if it's important to you.

Good luck with your search,

J.
 
Got a listen

I listened to these at my local music store. They sounded pretty good to me. I haven't had a chance to A/B them with other models though. From what I recall from listening to other models at guitar center, I thought they were grossly comparable to the alesis and event active models they carried, but the krk's seemed more transparent. I think it could have been partly to where they positioned them in the room (the sales guy was totally pushing them. probably have the most mark-up)

I've tried comparing these to the samson resolv50a and m-audio bx5's online. The Nady model has a frequency response chart with their technical data, but I couldn't find any for the M-Audio or Samson models. Not sure what to make of this. Would appreciate any opinions on their frequency response chart:

http://www.nady.com/pdf_files/manual_pdf/SM250A_techdata.pdf

Also, as far as eq'ing options, IF you are going to do this, wouldn't it be more accurate to do the trick where you set-up a condenser mic with a flat response at your listening position and modify the eq until the condenser frequency spectrum matches that of the raw wav file. There was a thread about this called something like "how to turn your computer speakers into the best monitors you ever heard". It obviously stirred up a lot of strong opinions.

Hope to A/B these soon and will repost when I have. Would appreciate anyone elses experiences with these monitors.
 
Here is their frequency response curve:
 

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With the woofer and tweeter listed SEPRATELY! Thatäs the most useless frequency response curve I have ever seen.

And it looks like shit too.
 
jeffree said:
... I picked up a pair of BX5s for $270 last week.... The EQ options allow me to set them up for my home studio, and I get a nice tight bass if I place them near the wall. .....

Haven't heard the Nadys, but did read a good review of the small Resolvs today. The problem I had, while searching for cheap monitors, was that most in this price range, like the Events, don't allow any EQ tweaking, which I like and need. I don't know if the Nadys do, but you might want to check this out if it's important to you.

Good luck with your search,

J.
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Why would you want a monitor that offers EQ tweaking?

Your monitoring system should be as flat across the freq'y spectrum as much as possible in order to properly judge your mixes. Dynamics processing should be applied accordingly via tracking/or mixing according to need. However if you're adj'ing the monitor's EQ; for ex., 6db boost in the lower freq'ys to compensate for lack of bottom, then you are improperly monitoring your tracks signal dynamics. Upon cross-referencing
your recording on other formats, you will more than likely notice
the lack of low-end presence due to monitor's false translation when you adj'd the units EQ rather than proceesing tracks/mix.

Being on a budget, I employ a pair of Tannoy Reveals for monitoring, Proto J's and Event20 BAS for cross referencing and finally, AudioSource PA's & Pioneer home speakers to determine
if what I recorded will sound acceptable on your basic home audio system. I'm still fine-tuning my ears, but I have learned that FLAT is the common denominator and necessity in a decent set of monitors.
 
Mister, do you like the events? I saw a used pair for 300.00. I was thinking of getting them.
 
Jblount said:
Mister, do you like the events? I saw a used pair for 300.00. I was thinking of getting them.
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Run! Don't WALK! RUN NOW!!!!!!!!!:p :D :p
 
regebro said:
With the woofer and tweeter listed SEPRATELY! Thatäs the most useless frequency response curve I have ever seen.

And it looks like shit too.
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He's rite Bergen!

Again, why would ANY-1 in thier rite mind purchase monitors that
dip drastically in the low-to low-mid freq'ys!!!

If that's the true graph of these monitors, these would truly RETARD the monitoring process setting back the near-field equation a 1000 years!

Lawd Have Mercy!!!:(
 
I catch your point, Mister, and I don't want to initiate another long discussion of flat monitoring here. Also, I'm guessing that you indeed have great knowledge than me on this subject. With all that said, though, I have to add a couple of related points:

First, your reference to flat monitoring assumes that acoustic environments are very similar. My own little home studio has very strange acoustics--it doubles as a dining room, actually--and I'm not able (unfortunately) at this time to change much. My studio rolls out when needed, and I need to make do with what I have.

But I'm no slouch when it comes to sound. As a part-time studio guitarist for the past 20 years, I've come to rely on a few professional reference mixes (e.g., some Steely Dan mixes) when setting up my recording space. I also used these when auditioning several monitors in the low-cost price range--i.e., I bought them, brought them home, then A/B'd them, and then returned all but the BX5s.

The minor EQ adjustments I refered to are indeed minor--just enough to bring my system in line with my strange little acoustic space. And In know it works because my first mixes using the monitors--along with the mixes of my reference CDs--translate quite well to to three other systems I use while mastering (quality home stereo, good car stereo, and cheap boom box). While auditioning models that allowed no EQ adjustment at all, I had problems that have disappeared after subtly aligning the EQ of my monitoring environment--without moving walls or adding baffles. I know it's a cheap fix, but that's about in line with my cheap (Yamaha aw16g-based) studio. Yeah. I'm just making do with what I have, and the BX5s have worked well on a budget.

That's my story, wrong or right, and no argument intended with you or anyone whith more know-how of working within the limitations of a cheap home environment.

Peace, and thanks for the input...

J.
 
hey man, I am certainly no great, possessor of knowledge of ALL things recording. Learning here and there, making mistakes thru trial and error and such. Nor am I trying to down you either, just merely stating what one would seem to be the obvious.
On the OTHER hand, one can "LEARN" how to judge one's own mixes by training and tuning his/her ear to any particular speaker's performance thereby producing good recordings, but it is far easier to use monitors that translates your material on a flat response.

Peace brutha'
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I'm with you, M, and I really do appreciate your taking time to
share your thoughts. Folks like you make this site great.

J.
 
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