New monitors, new amp; don't like it at all

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In the store they sounded great;
my new combination of a 2x70 W Rotel RB-03 amplifier and two Tannoy Mercury mx1 speakers.
But in the studio, connected to the gear, it sounded less than my micro-setspeakers at home; very little high, too much strange mids, not a 'great' bass-sound.
Anyone knows these products and have similiar experiences?
Thanks.
 
what are you listeing to on them? one of your own mixes? a store bought CD?- Maybe your old speakers were that inacturate- just a thought- Maybe they're not hooked up right?
J
 
thanks for your reply.
I have listened some cd's and recorded stuff of my own which sound I know very well, but it's all crappy.
I have carefully installed the stuff, noticing I didn't get phase cancelattion when attaching the wrong cords into the inputs and all, so I guess it are the speakers themselves... :(
 
take them back! if the store is any good they will help you to find something you like.
 
i am not at all familiar with your monitors, but it sounds like they are wired out of phase. If you have things dissapearing, sounds like this is the case. One speaker pulling while the other is pushing. This is a common problem and drives nubs insane. I can count on more than two hands the number of times i've gone into well regarded studios and have found their monitors to be wired out of phase. You must remember a lot of engineers travel with their own monitors so there is quite a bit of swapping going on, and for some reason a lot of places let the assistant do it. Assistants have a knack for such things. They also have a knack for not taping down cables well, then tripping over the cables they didn't tape down well, and knocking over the mic stand with nubs's u67.
 
Aww shut up stinkynub, everyone knows you are a 15 year old nerd with way too much free time to read Mix and EQ on your hands.
 
" VEGAS VEGAS VEGAS....everything else sucks. I haven't tried everything else but I like to complain. Actually I'd use Cool Pro as a standby."


Now jakey-wakey sounds like the voice of inexperience to me. Perhaps you should try Logic someday, your opinion of Vegas may perhaps shrink. I'm shure it is a nice simple tracking program, but if you are at all concerned about latency, nondirect x plugs, midi, etc. you are up shit creek. Logic is a powerful sequencer which in my opinion outperforms protools. It seems you are pc based so I won't metion Digital Performer which also kicks ass. (again over pro-tools) Now I've heard you mention you track only with your computer and have no need for midi. But midi can be your friend and fun! Why not get a sequencer you can grow into? Vegas is a dead end. I am assuming you have outboard multi-effects? (obviously with delay lines to compensate for latency) Now how could midi tracks work for you with all this outboard gear? you can sequence program changes with your midi tracks, hows that for fun! Lets say you want a short delay on one word in a vocal, send a program change via your midi track! now that's fun! Let's say later on in the chorus you want a little flange on your guitar (obviously jake isn't going to actually mult the guitar track to an open track, flange the reel with his finger, return it to an empty channel and bring the corresponding fader up when said flange is needed, maybe even automate the fader move with his automation controlled by, you guessed it, midi tracks in your sequencer!) anyhow, you can send a program change to change from delay to flange for the same multi-effects unit with the midi track! Well, that's a hum-dinger! You can use one multi-effects device to send several different effects at different times all automated without you having to phsysically do it in realtime during the mix! Now that is fun! seems like that might save you some money, eh? That's just one useful aspect of midi, and midi tracks on sequencers. Someday you will perhaps discover the fun-filled world of midi controllers! Once you figure out the joys of midi, even if you track to analog, you might want a computer around simply as a midi sequencer. How about an analog reel to reel you can remotely control with, you guessed it, MIDI!
 
so nubs.... do you refer to your self in the third person in real life also?? just curious
 
Nubs, cubase does all that shit too... So what. WTF does that have to do with this thread?
 
F_cksia said:
very little high, too much strange mids, not a 'great' bass-sound.
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This does sound suspisciously similar to how somebody used to a smiley face-EQ sound would describe something that sounded accurate...
 
"so nubs.... do you refer to your self in the third person in real life also?? just curious"

yes. always. I am now going to start calling myself "lady tiger" after watching American Idol. Sometimes I refer to myself as Thee nubs, thee nubz, the nubmeister, nubophonic, nubinomicron, nubile nubby, nubby wonka, the nubster, etc. Please feel free to add any suggestions.


"Nubs, cubase does all that shit too... So what. WTF does that have to do with this thread?"

jake-off was the one referring to nubsy as the inexperienced 15 year old so i'd thought i'd do a quick search and find for evidence of ignorance on his part. I didn't take long, actually the second thread on my list. so I posted it in defense of thee nubz'z honor and valor. Vegas indeed. Not my fault he's a midiot. Now subtractor nubs has never messed with cubase sx but the older versions don't hold a candle to Logic, do a little research on Logic audio platinum and Cubase and see what you turn up. Bully toApple for buying out Emagic.
 
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regebro said:
This does sound suspisciously similar to how somebody used to a smiley face-EQ sound would describe something that sounded accurate...
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yeah maybe I just have to get used to it, but regular audio-cd's sound also like this on these speakers and I don't think that's the way they came out of the mastering studio..
 
Well, you can always go back to the store with some of the CD's you have listened to in your studio and check it out. ANd if it doens't sound pretty much as it should at your place, then there is something wrong.

It's always good to have a set of "reference" cd's with you when you listen to monitors, so you have something to compare with.
 
sweetnubs said:
" VEGAS VEGAS VEGAS....everything else sucks. I haven't tried everything else but I like to complain. Actually I'd use Cool Pro as a standby."


Now jakey-wakey sounds like the voice of inexperience to me. Perhaps you should try Logic someday, your opinion of Vegas may perhaps shrink. even if you track to analog, you might want a computer around simply as a midi sequencer. How about an analog reel to reel you can remotely control with, you guessed it, MIDI!
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Sweetfart, I have tried Logic, if you were paying real attention you would notice how much I put it down...it sucks for what I do.

I have no need for MIDI in my computer, I have this thing called a sequencer that more than covers all my needs in that department.
I barely use plugins and I actually like to track with effects...so rip away.

No I'm not a pro but neither are you so shut the fuck up nubbydick.
 
"No I'm not a pro but neither are you so shut the fuck up nubbydick"-obviously not since you track only with software and think Vegas is superior to Logic as a tracking sequencer. It's fine if you are recording yourself and your buddies at home but if you were serving clients you'd realize the error of your ways. Of course Logic does have the undersirable aspect of no more PC upgrades will be available which might force me in the near future to use DP and Pro-tools more often. I don't like to use plugs either but if you served clients you'd know that they often like to use certian plugs for some reason no matter how hard you try to convince them otherwise (usually hip-hop dumbasses). Fine by me if you are riding the tide of '80's nostalgia and use a hardware sequencer. Aaahh, I remember the wonderful world of sysex dumps and piles of 3.5"'s. have fun, jake-off.
 
sweetnubs said:
"No I'm not a pro but neither are you so shut the fuck up nubbydick"-obviously not since you track only with software and think Vegas is superior to Logic as a tracking sequencer. It's fine if you are recording yourself and your buddies at home but if you were serving clients you'd realize the error of your ways. Of course Logic does have the undersirable aspect of no more PC upgrades will be available which might force me in the near future to use DP and Pro-tools more often. I don't like to use plugs either but if you served clients you'd know that they often like to use certian plugs for some reason no matter how hard you try to convince them otherwise (usually hip-hop dumbasses). Fine by me if you are riding the tide of '80's nostalgia and use a hardware sequencer. Aaahh, I remember the wonderful world of sysex dumps and piles of 3.5"'s. have fun, jake-off.
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Sorry F_cksia, I hate this ignorant retard.

Nubbyass, you again show how little you know about me with the moronic assumptions.
I own a TASCAM 16 track 1" machine and a TASCAM M-600 mixer. I love analog and would use it everyday if I could afford it.
Go ahead and tease my prosumer equipment, I'm sure you've read a lot about much better stuff you'd like to talk about.

I can backup all my MIDI on my computer and synch to Vegas with no problem so anything else dumbass?
 
I've got Tannoy Reveal Actives. They took getting used to as with all monitors you have to listen for a while for your ears to become accustomed to the sound. I thought at first they were a bit crispy and lacked bass. I felt this way because my previous speakers(hi/fi) had bass boost.

I would get the CD/s you tested the speakers with in the store and test them at home and see if they sound the same. If you should check the wiring and make sure it the same as they were set up at the store. If that doesn't work I would say that the you have a dud pair.

Tukkis
 
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