new mixer, or new mic? - all input wanted..badly!

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Alright...so i just got paid for some things now...which should i buy first to improve the recordings?

either
A - new $100 mixer - MX802A Eurorack Compact Mixer ( http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7...3243435602/search/g=home/detail/base_id/35499 )
Instead of my Tascam Portastudio 414 4-track that i am using as a mixer now.

or
B - a REAL bass drum mic (should i got for a Shure Beta 52 or AKG D112 ?)
Instead of my SM57 that i'm using now...

so which out of A or B would you buy first...and which bass drum mic would you pic (i'd buy the ic off EBAY - they are both around $100-$150 rigiht now there)

Thanks for any imput
 
what all are you recording and what other gear do you have and what are u recording to?...i assume you have $100 to spend?....
 
i think you'll appreciate the pre's on the behringer a lot more than those on the tascam....it will give you a much cleaner sound on the way in, cause once its in there it ain't coming back.....

as far as the bass drum mic goes, i just hire one for $5au a day ($2.50usd) its not the kind of thing you need to buy, where as you may want to learn the ins and outs of a mixer, and have a bit more time to study it...

anyhow thats my .03c :D
 
if you ditch the 4 track what are you going to record on. If you are on a 4 track a specialised kick mike would be a strange priority to me :confused:

cheers
john
 
jonh and gidge

sorry john and gidge...i guess i could've explained more...

I record to the computer, and do it all as seperate tracks. The Tascam is being used as my mixer/preamps for now (point of the eurorack).

I use all 4 tracks when i do drums (2 58's as overheads, and EV on snare, and a 57 on bass drum.............pan both overheads hard right/left)

then for everything else, i just mic it with the 57, and use one track on the tascam as a preamp before it sends to teh computer. So actually, the "tape" part of the 4-track is never used - I save that for the computer

A while ago, you (gidge) told me that one problem was i was going from decent mics, to lo-fi (analog 4-track), to hi-fi (computer).....so that was where i came across new mixer ideas actually.


So that's my recording arsenol. As you can see, after a bass drum mic and mixer, i'm pretty much set for a while. Next comes acoustics (cheap carpet squares!)...lol

Thanks again everyone.
 
i thought this might be the case ..... yup definatly the mixer :)
 
ok so mixer it is.

but does anyone have a suggestion for a mixer? (4-pre's)....100 bucks is best...but i can prolly pay a LITTLE more if its for a good cause..ha.

also - what good are those stero inputs? i eman, what makes trhen different from hte other ones, and why do i need to use them? what for?
 
the behringer mx802a has 4 pres and two stereo channels (dunno the u.s. price but i'm guessing around $100)..the stereo channels are for line level apps. that is to say you can't plug a mic into em..., and you don't "need" to use them, altough you can run outboard effects through'em, or your c.d. player or whatever....
 
Shackrock,

I got a Behringer MXB1002 ($120 from 8thstreet.com) a couple months ago and I've been pretty pleased.

You get 5 mic pres, and I believe it is the cheapest Behringer that has faders instead of pots. Also, it can run on two 9V batteries if you need it to. I haven't used this feature.

I think this would make a nice little drum submixer for live applications whenever you decide to upgrade your studio board. Thats what I plan to do with it anyway.

It's not pro gear, but you can't expect that for the price. Good luck!
 
I also have theMXB1002.While I'm not a huge Behringer fan so far the 1002 has done what I need it for.Seems solid and you get 5 xlrs.Seems pretty good for $120.
 
whats the differnecee between the faders and the "pots" (round things)?

other then the more tracks, what are the advantages?
 
guys....please!

whats the differnecee between the faders and the "pots" (round things)?

other then the more tracks, what are the advantages?

the sooner the better...i'm ordering ASAP! thanks
 
With faders, it is much easier to mix in real time than with pots. You just lay your fingers on them and you can move several at a time. Can't do that with pots.

Of course, the way you are recording (one at a time into your computer) it doesn't really make a difference.

Take care,
Chris
 
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