new guitar fret buzz

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hey everyone i was just given a les paul style guitar with a tune-o-matic bridge. put some new strings on it sat down and started playing it and theres a ton of fret buzz in a bunch of different places along the neck. i play skinny top heavy bottom strings, and usually play in drop d. the action is low, and i know that doesnt help the fret buzz. which is the best way to go about fixing this without having to bring it in to the shop? ill get it set up eventually but im really pressed for time. should adjust the action a bit higher, or work on the truss rod a bit? its a pretty straight neck, slightly slightly bowed forward. maybe a bit of both? thanks!
 
hey everyone i was just given a les paul style guitar with a tune-o-matic bridge. put some new strings on it sat down and started playing it and theres a ton of fret buzz in a bunch of different places along the neck. i play skinny top heavy bottom strings, and usually play in drop d. the action is low, and i know that doesnt help the fret buzz. which is the best way to go about fixing this without having to bring it in to the shop? ill get it set up eventually but im really pressed for time. should adjust the action a bit higher, or work on the truss rod a bit? its a pretty straight neck, slightly slightly bowed forward. maybe a bit of both? thanks!
For the most part, if it's buzzing on the lower frets only your neck might be too straight (so you will need to loosen your truss rod), if it's buzzing on open notes only you need to raise your nut, and if its buzzing everywhere (or just on the higher frets), raise the action. I'm thinking you need to raise the action a little.

You do want a bit of a bow in your neck too - if you hold down your low e on the first fret, and with your other hand hold down the same string on the 12th (or higher) fret, the string will form a makeshift straightedge, and you can see the bow. You want to be able to slip a bit of paper between the fret and the string around the 5-7th frets, but not much more, and certainly not much less. There's lots of setup instructional things online you can check out if that makes no sense. Tighten the rod for straighter (not too straight!), loosen for more relief.

If neither the truss rod or the action changes the buzz, you could have a couple of frets sticking up and giving you grief, which would be easily fixed by any pretty much any decent tech. (note the word decent hehe)

Of course it's hard to say without looking at it. But learning to set up your guitar is worth taking the time to do, and will save you spending cash too. There's a fair bit you can do with a screwdriver and allen key which form the bulk of set ups. Dressing/crowning frets is actually pretty easy too but requires some tools. Even cutting nuts (hehe) is fairly simple if not rather irritating and time consuming to do (bone dust STINKS).

Some might recommend taking it straight to the professional but unless you've got some serious repair needed I think it's a bit of a waste of cash for *basic* setups. Obviously don't jump straight into refretting bound necks or anything but you can do most stuff at home.
 
You've got other guitars? Take this one to a shop and get it set up. It's a new guitar (at least, for you) and you are changing the gauge of the strings. It needs to be setup, and it's going to be making your life more work than it has to be until you get it taken care of. Trust me, if you take it to a good shop, you'll be very happy you did. If it's a brand new Gibson, all of that is doubly true, and while you are at it ask about a new nut, `cause every new Gibson nut I've seen for the last 5 or so years sucks. Badly.

As for short term fixes, how could anyone tell you. None of us have seen the guitar, so we have no idea what's wrong. Any advice anyone gives you is at best a shot in the dark, and as likely to make things worse as better (except, perhaps, raising the bridge, which will just make it a pain to play and make the intonation worse than it probably already is).



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there are a couple of things you can check yourself.

with a credit card or any firm level edge..
you place it over and three frets. if you can rock it, like a see saw, then
you have a high fret.
at least check every place it's making noise.

press any string at the 3rd fret..and hold
check the distance between the bottom of that string and the top of the first fret.. should be a hairs breadth, a tad less.
there's your nut slot depth check.

after that it's neck relief, string guage, action hieght.
you should be able to eyeball all of these and know what the problem is.

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As others have already said here, in pieces, fret buzz usually is caused by one or more of the standard set of things:

Nut depth too low for one or more strings
One or more bad frets
Neck bow adjustment not correct
Bad neck (meaning its more than bow adjustment)
Action set too low for one or more strings
Pickup height

Each of these are things you can check for initially yourself. First you want to determine what your situation is, then you can decide whether you can make the adjustment.

Many will not want to try and solve nut depth issues, as nut replacement or cutting is only for experienced folks.

Neck adjustment can be done by most, but use care here. Gibson, PRS, and other good guitar firms have detailed notes in the support areas on how to adjust the neck bow and how to measure with simple things like sheets of paper.

Fixing a bad fret is another one best left to pros.

Adjusting the action is usually quite easy. Some bridges allow it by string and others only for the whole bridge. Note that action on the bigger strings will need to be higher than that on the small strings. Again firms like Gibson and PRS have lots of info on this subject too, and simple ways to measure it.

Also note that pickup height can be an issue for higher fret notes, especially pickups with individual pole pieces. This is each to check for and easy to fix.


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