new green day compressed to extinction?

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geez, as it goes along, it sure gets tiring on the ears. I don't think i've ever heard anything like it.
 
Meaty meaty guitars though. SOunds really good. I heard that they used many different guitars and amps and then layered them to get that sound.
 
I really like it a lot, it Just wears out on me after a while - but I was just thinking that maybe it's my monitors that's causing it and not as bad on my crappy stereo.
 
listen to System of a Down's "Steal this Album". I don't particularly love that band but it is about -6db RMS and extremely dynamic. its some sort of anomaly. Green Day's albums were always loud as shit. now they're digital, though, and thats what isn't flying, IMO. too many artifacts. plus when you can hear pro-tools damaging the music it doesn't really help.
 
this is a trend i don't really see reverseing,
can't we just get everyone to gether in a room and agree to turn this crap down?????/


(sure would be nice)
 
How can an album be at -6db AND be extremely dynamic? CDs still only go to 0db, right?

I don't mean to be an ass, but by definition you can't really have both. I like listening to loud music but anything louder than -10.5db (for really really hot songs at their loudest parts) usually sounds really bad to me. Most engineers on here would even think -10.5db is insanely stupid.

My girlfriend picked up the new album by The Killers and I can't believe how loud it is. Just stupid, really. They could have held back about 4-5db and still had a loud (definitely punchier) album.
 
I agree. Like I said, I dont know how they did it. its unbelieveable.
 
FALKEN said:
plus when you can hear pro-tools damaging the music it doesn't really help.
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ProTools doesn't damage music, people damage music.
 
The thing is, a good mastering job can give a loud RMS value, but still maintain the PERCEPTION of good dynamics. Thats a lot of what you are paying for with mastering. I wonder if you couldn't add a steady loud 5hz tone to a mix that wouldn't be audible, yet still raised the RMS value:D
 
It isn't that the music doesn't feel dynamic. Sure there's some parts that seem quieter on the Greenday album. Whether they actually are quieter or not is a different story, but they seem quieter. The real problem is that the limiting makes everything sound so grating and harsh and confined. It's really hard to listen to. A shame too because all of the songs on that album are fantastic.
 
xstatic said:
The thing is, a good mastering job can give a loud RMS value, but still maintain the PERCEPTION of good dynamics.
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This is something that has frustrated me with some of my mixes. Before I was all, "blah blah I need my mix to sound as loud as possible so it compares volume-wise to commercial cd's". Now my problem seems to be, "My mix is nice and loud (and still clean sounding) at a moderate listening level, but when I start to crank it up in my car, parts of the mix get abrasive and hard on the ears, as opposed to a commercial cd that seems to sound clean across the entire range of the volume knob of my car stereo" Is this a mastering-related problem, or should I be mixing while listening at a louder level?
 
Is it me or when the Video comes on MTV or whatever I can barely make out the words unless I REALLY try especially when the hook comes on fuggedaboutit....but I'ma hip hop guy where vocals are always prominent so maybe its just a difference in genre's
 
When you are mixing it is a good idea to check your mixes at different levels ranging form pretty quiet to pretty loud. Good mastering will definately help that out though.
 
....why does the most successful punk rock artist of all time walk the road of broken dreams anyway? doesn't that make you want to just strangle him??? what dreams are broken?????? what MORE could you ask for???
 
Queens of the stonage, the album that Dave Grohl plays drums on for one song: RMS=-6dB! Sick! If a crazy level like that was wanted would it be a good idea to stick a limiter on the stereo out and adjust the output level so the RMS is at -6dB roughly and then mix like that? You could use the monitor level to change the volume through the monitors obviously.
 
Guitar Wolf are (were, seeing as the bassist died) awesome. That is some noisy garage action.
 
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