New Acoustic Demos

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Would love to get some feedback on the mix so far. Have some rough demos posted of my son's work. The one that's closest to being finished and ready for bass, elec. guit., keyboards and percussion is entiltled " Like me only different". Here's the link. Oh and don't worry, it's not a rap song, just some spoken word to start out. Make it bleed fellas:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=212974964
 
That's a rough demo? Wow. Sounds pretty good to me! I like the panning effect on the background vocals.
 
you're obviously a really good singer. I can't say I like the style, but its very well done. Impressive ability. Maybe a bit too much. I don't know. I don't dislike it, but I like a raw quality to music, and this is very well produced. I guess some could say similar things about what I actually record so its kinda hypocritical to say. Anyway, style-wise, not digging it, but very good regardless.
 
you're obviously a really good singer. I can't say I like the style, but its very well done. Impressive ability. Maybe a bit too much. I don't know. I don't dislike it, but I like a raw quality to music, and this is very well produced. I guess some could say similar things about what I actually record so its kinda hypocritical to say. Anyway, style-wise, not digging it, but very good regardless.

Yeah, thanks. It's actually not me singing, it's my son. I know his style is not for everyone. I'm just looking for feedback on the guitar sound, dynamics, vocal mixing, compression, any suggestions welcome. I'm here to learn.
 
he's very controlled. but I feel like with his ability he needs to be experimenting with it instead of taking the easy route. he obviously can sing all of that perfectly, but I'd like to hear him try some faster vocals. maybe punk/hip-hop. he's be a great MC. like I said i think the tracks are over-produced. needs a raw quality to it. some heart, you know?

you'd be surprised what an analog 4 track can do.



O, would you mind taking a look at my song. give me some tips on production. you know what you're doing.

www.myspace.com/agentofmonaco
 
I listened to Like Me Only Different. Well done, bud. Good tracking sound, good mix. I agree about the interesting panning of the BG vox. A nice touch. The MySpace processing might be doing this, but the gtr on each strong downbeat strum sounds highly compressed and it squashes the highs. You might be able to avoid that by skipping broadband compression and instead hitting the gtr with a multiband to reduce the low mids on those strong beats while leaving the highs untouched and not reducing the fullness in the low mids during the rest of the gtr part.
 
I like the mix so far. Tim has excellent ears (way better than mine :)) . I would take a look at what he mentioned about the compression. Your son has excellent vocals and equally nice guitar style. I'm not sure about the spoken parts. The writing is good but the delivery on that is not my fave. I'm not really sure what I'd like to hear, because I 'm not sure if the typical M&M rap would fit, or the distorted Britney style would, or maybe a more melodic delivery. It's not bad, it's just not as cool as the singing vocals. I think your son has loads of talent, and the mix is pretty sweet in any case....:cool:

PS - my wife just walked in and said "wow he's really good" ....;)
 
I listened to Like Me Only Different. Well done, bud. Good tracking sound, good mix. I agree about the interesting panning of the BG vox. A nice touch. The MySpace processing might be doing this, but the gtr on each strong downbeat strum sounds highly compressed and it squashes the highs. You might be able to avoid that by skipping broadband compression and instead hitting the gtr with a multiband to reduce the low mids on those strong beats while leaving the highs untouched and not reducing the fullness in the low mids during the rest of the gtr part.

XLR, I really appreciate your feedback. I think you've got good ears. So if I understand you correctly, you're saying record the tracks dry without compression and then EQ down the low mids on the strumming portion. Is that correct?
 
...So if I understand you correctly, you're saying record the tracks dry without compression and then EQ down the low mids on the strumming portion...
Definitely record without compression and do any EQ or dynamics control later. But multiband compression isn't the same as EQ. Have you used a multiband compressor before?
 
OK, thanks. Now I get what Ciro is saying.

XLR, No I've never used multiband compression. Don't know how.
 
A good multiband comp to learn on is Reaper's "ReaFir". Super easy to set up and to see visually what it's doing to the sound. Just put it in "compressor mode", set the FFT size to a pretty high value, set the compression ratio to 2:1 or 3:1, click the "reduce artifacts" box (sounds better), and drag the red line that represents the compressor's threshold to where it affects the freq range below 400 Hz or so but doesn't compress above that.

Their "ReaXComp" is good too and is a traditional multiband compressor - takes a little more time to get used to it I think.

They're freeware VSTs that come in a set:
http://www.cockos.com/reaper/reaplugs/
 
I record on a Mac and I don't see support listed for Mac. Do you know if you can use these pluggins with Mac?
 
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