Need Advise!!!!

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Okay, I was just checking on the net to see if my new AKG 240 DF studio monitor headphones are okay for not getting any computer interference etc.... And it said these headphones are more for "radio reference"...Quotes here:

Semi-open headphones meeting the Institute of Radio Technology standards.


The K 240 DF follows the criteria specified by the Institute of Radio Technology (IRT) in Munich for a "diffuse field" equalization curve that provides headphone listeners with the sound pattern, characteristic of a room with reflective, non-anechoic surfaces. Each K 240 DF is rigorously tested to assure strict adherence to the IRT standards for frequency response, channel separation and sensitivity.

So yeah, I think I fucked up!!!
I think I should have gone for the 240m's!!! the DF's are monitors but they seem to not be the best choice over below.
These cost me 210$ in Canada, So I really feel worried. I don't know if I'll have a refund available, or nOT! :(
but if I don't their deffinitley gonna get my fury, long and mcquade doesn't know shiet for music equipment, they couldn't tell me anything on any of their headphones besides the price!!!
peep below... These are the AKG 240m's

A classic design which has become a standard in monitoring.

The "integrated semi-open air" design incorporates a highly accurate dynamic transducer, and an acoustically tuned venting structure behind the element produces a naturally open sound quality. The circumaural (around-the-ear) pads are designed for hours of wearing comfort, while the steel-cable, self-adjusting headband construction and single-sided professional quality audio interconnect ensure extended reliability in demanding professional studio applications.

YEEAHHH!!! that sounds right ehh.

So please please please, someone tell me if I should go back first thing in the morn and plead for them to order me the 240m's, the stores a block from my house... Or atleast if I got ripped off, I want these for hiphop production and my beats, and I thought I made a good investment on some decent headphones and now I can't even listen to them,, even though they sound well...good considering I don't know what flat monitors sound like, but they seem accurate.

On this site I heard word that these are great can's, but mayby not the right one's... This came at the wrong time, I'm pissed!

HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP ADVISE!!!!!!

oh yeah, I also figured how to get my sound louder on my last question below so ignore. thankS!
 
$210 (even in that wack-ass canadian Monopoly money) is a bit much to pay for those AKGs. Both the K240DF's and K240M's are known to be fairly bright and somewhat lacking in bass. I have heard that the DF's are more accurate, but the 240M's have more bass so they may be better for rap and "hip hop" (I can't stand that term, btw). I would probably just return the DF's and pick up some cheap monitors. You should be able to pick up some Yorkville YSM-1's, Hafler M5's, or Tannoy Proto-J's for under $300 Canadian and make do with some cheap headphones for now.
 
thanks!

I'd still like more advise.
I don't know, i saw lots of geat praise on this board about the AKG's... I'm going to get monitors two, but this was mainly for working at night, which is usually when i work the most too, so I figured they'd get enuff use that it would be worth some quality. I wanted monitor style, not ordinary lieing can's. They did sound very detailed, your right about the bass.
hopefully they'll take'em back. if these headphones arn't all that, what is "that"... nobody seems to mention any thing else with any info other than the sony's, and those I think are for sounding good, not accurate. They had some sennheiser phones their, for about the same price and also the AKG's 141m's...

I still would like more advice... thanks!
 
Hmmm....

I've been reading peoples reviews and I guess overall I was thinkin that the AKG's DF studio monitors wern'f for what I was doing becasue it said all that junk about radio etc, but apparently from those who have used the AKGm's say that it is meant to sound flater than the AKGm's and is overall much better. So mayby I'm not stuck with what i thoguth was not for me. but I'm not satisfied with the bass at all... I think I might keep these, I wouldn't mind closed back for recording, but I've recently read that closed back has a substantial effect on the mid and high sounds, so overall has worse quality sound... I think I could always get some cheaper closed back just for recording, and have these just for night. I'm sort'ov feeling better about my purchase, they do sound amazing, but something still feels missing... mayby my two hundred beans ;) but more so the thought I didn't get what's best for me.

If any of you think I made the right move, give me your support because I'm not sure weather to smile or not...?

Does any one create "hiphop" with these...??? I hate that term too, not because it sounds stupid, but becaseu it carries something that it's not. Peazzzzzz

Also lastly, if anyone can recommend some other can's that sound great and have deeper bass please suggest...
 
I would take a good hard look at some Sony MDR-7506 closed headphones. They're another recording industry standard like the AKG's but have more definition and extention of the lower frequencies. I believe they'd also be easier to drive than the AKG's.
 
okay.

That sounds like it might be the choice, i'll go check the sony store out. Then if those are dope, I'll go back and front I made a mistake, and buy the soundcard I've been harbouring over, the delta 66... and if they complain, I'll tell them it's their fault, because they don't know a damn thing about music muhahah. I think I'd rather use my good monitors I'm gonna get soon at a low volume than have worthless capabilities on a good pair of headphones. thanks! You think this idea is sound?
 
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AIGHT!!!

I've broughten back the AKG DF's, The SonyMDR-7506 climb in at just over 200 beanies the sizame... so do I go with the next value down, and get the sony's 6000 something, for one thirty somethin...? That's what I'm thinkin. If ya'll think this is the checkmate, rep! because I'm gonna go down to pick them up in about half a clock.

Also I have the option of the sennheiser hd 25 or something like that, for I think 135, the same ad the lower sony's... both closed I think, what to get, I tried the sons's out and they seemed good enuff, but I havn't tried the senns. HAs anybody used both, I'm eager for some answers wanna cop somethin as soon as possible. Thanks! peazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
Hmmm, I don't quite get what you're saying (must be the language barrier) but I'll say this again, I wouldn't spend that much $$ on headphones right now. Seriously. First off, the Sony's only run about $75 US, and you'd be paying the equivalent of $130 something. Next, until you have a good recording device and monitors, I wouldn't be spending that much on headphones. If you can't get a refund, maybe you should just get credit towards monitors or the Delta 66. I'm sure there must be a Canadian music store with decent prices that you can order from online or by phone, or some place in this country that will ship to Canada. I would suggest looking for something like that rather than dealing with a local mom & pop operation. Local music stores are notorious for overcharging. Honestly, I don't know how they stay in business but there must be some stupid-ass people out there. I see synths at MSRP prices at these places all the time. Really, try to get your money back. Maybe look into the Koss UR20's I recommended in one of the many threads you started on this topic.
 
Huh!!!

yeah!, they gave me my money back, I'm home right now, decideing on what to buy, the sony MDR-7506 are the same 200 something price with our wooden coins. I was thinking the MDR V600 but they seem to get mixed reviews some likeing and some hating. Overall I wanna spend about 100-130... not 210 like the AKG's... The delta 66 there goes for 525$ without tax, but I got my cash back, so what to get.....????? They had the sennheiser 25 sp's at that place too, but I think they were the same price.
I deffinitely want closed cans though...

also, this isn't a mom and pop shop, it's a chain we got out here in CAN Land and they say they guarantee the lowest prices.
 
hmmm....

Been thinking it over and reading reviews, and it seems The sony's MDR-7506 althoguh also 200, I'm gonna check to see if I can find them cheaper first, someone siad they found them 150$ CAN, which would be sick! These are closed so I wont need to buy new phones for recording, have good representation of the bass, very important for hiphop, what I do... And even if the AkG's are better for detail, not sure, That's what my fricken real monitors will be for... I think I could use these headphones overall to record, to examine the bass, because even with monitors there's only so loud I can put them up in the day.
Also can be used as another reference, When I want to just listen to my music loud at night, just for enjoyment... I think although these are just as expensive as the AKG's, will do more for me if I'm going to be primarily monitoring on speakers.

If I have good monitors, I might aswell use headphones as another tool, and not something that wants to be what it can't.

If any one can recommend anything cheaper and still good, please do, must be closed! I'm open to all decisions, I'm not leaping on anything agian until I'm positive this time.
 
Thanks!

no mixing, I was just talking to a homie online and he thoguht the Alesis monitor ones would be the knock, but I;m gonna have something in that range to mix with. the sonys seem like they might be the investment. Time will tell, peace!

Atleast I have thememory of the AKG's to compare the rest too.
 
I gotta say, if you're on a limited budget, don't go spend a whole load on headphones just for tracking. They aren't going to define your sound...they just need to provide a reasonably accurate representation of sound. Really, you could do a lot worse than a $15 pair of Koss UR20's, and then you'd have a lot more money left for the important stuff. Seriously man, get your priorities straight here! You still haven't got a decent sound card and you're obsessing over frickin' headphones!

Also, not many people like the Monitor Ones. I would definitely go for one of the more accepted low-end monitors, like the Yorkville YSM-1's, Hafler M5's, Tannoy Proto-J's, or JBL LSR25's.

One more thing: don't go asking for advice if you're not gonna take it!
 
werdy!

You who brought back his headphones...?
(not taking advise, I think not)
that's exactly what I'm doing, I've got it all calculated cash-wise.
but that post about what headphones are gonna do for me cleared my proiorities.
I am thinking about the monitor ones, but not the old version, the new MK2's active, or the event 20/20 active's...that's more wish list.
More realisticly, thinking of the proto-J's aswell because I met someone who let me hear his, and deffinitely the JBL's... which I've heard really lack on the bass... One of the reasons I'm deteuring from them. Is this not true...?

headphones are on the wait, I need to order the sony's 7506 if I choose those. My first item will be monitors, but if I'm not mistaken I need a delta 66 to plug them in to the computer.

Thanks, I figured that headphones would work for monitors until I got them, but now I see I need the ral speaks first... thank
peacer!
 
Well, you already knew the AKGs weren't the best for your situation since they're hard to drive, not to mention expensive, so I hope you would have taken them back regardless. I just get frustrated trying to help you out here because while its important to get the right gear, especially when you're on a budget (and who isn't?) but the key thing is to get things moving, start making and recording something. All the gear in the world won't do you dick if you don't do anything with it. For real...gear is important but don't obsess over it - obsess over music not electronics.

Anyway, check out these reviews of the Yorkville YSM-1's:

http://www.yorkville.com/default.asp?section=2&level2=29&level3=0&id=9

http://www.yorkville.com/default.asp?section=2&level2=29&level3=0&id=8

The reviewers seem impressed by its low-end response.

According to Yorkville's technical specifications, the YSM-1 is the basso profundo of the bunch with a low end rated at 40 Hz. The specs panned out, as the monitor produced a steady tone at 40 Hz
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40 Hz from a nearfield is impressive.
 
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