Need a little help here.

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There is a difference in the high-end of the cymbals.
On the second one, the cymbals sound a little more "mp3" and mushy to my ears. There seems to be something like a more pronounced phaser effect on the cymbals compared to the #1 ???

Really the differences seem to be with the drums.
There seems to be a little less reverb on the #1 snare.

Also. there is a little guitar in the background that isn't positioned at the same place, again, not sure.

But overall, I'd say the first sample just sounds tighter, cause the drums are more "in your face" and there seems to be less verb going on.

Maybe all the guy did is put a slight reverb on the whole second sample?

Listening again and again, there is really a difference in the high-end. Most noticeably at the end of the file.
 
Well , i am not a professional trained pair of ears :D , and i cant hear on my monitors right now, but at a first quick look i found the second version better

It seens that the mid and high freq were more "clear" and they had bigger presence on the track. Then again, the diferences are not so wide betwen them, it just sounded like the second one was clearer

By the way, this track seens to be very nice :)
 
Thanks for the comments guys. Looking for a LOT more people to chime in before I talk about what I am up to here.
 
Too close for me. I want to say the intro cymbals sound different, that 1 has a bit more dynamics in that intro. But in reality, they could be the same thing.... :o

Sorry man, I can't tell.
Ed
 
I was hoping for a LOT more listens and opinions, but this has seemed to stall. I wanted this to be double blind, but by posting the below, that is shot now.

Anyway, simply, each of these files had a different sample rate converter. That is it.

Sample 1 was the stock Wavelab 5 SRC

Sample 2 was Voxengo R8Brain SRC at Very High quality mode.

Wavelabs SRC works MUCH faster. To me, it has a slightly "warmer" sound overall.
 
Ford Van said:
I was hoping for a LOT more listens and opinions, but this has seemed to stall. I wanted this to be double blind, but by posting the below, that is shot now.
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I didn't say anything because I know what you think of my opinion. Maybe I am not alone in this thinking.
 
Thunder33 said:
I didn't say anything because I know what you think of my opinion. Maybe I am not alone in this thinking.
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Okay. I don't know you at all, and don't recall discussing anything with you.

But, just for laughs, what DO I think of your opinions?
 
Thunder33 said:
Remember now?
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That sounds like something the evil genius spurned as a teen says in a bad horror flick right before he gets his revenge.
 
boingoman said:
That sounds like something the evil genius spurned as a teen says in a bad horror flick right before he gets his revenge.
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if the evil shoe fits! ha ha ha ha!!!!
 
Why don't you post a link to the whole thread and let people read it all?

You WERE a retard in that thread. And look at this, you are here now being a retard.
 
Ford Van said:
Why don't you post a link to the whole thread and let people read it all?

You WERE a retard in that thread. And look at this, you are here now being a retard.
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and this is why my help is not needed here. Good luck.
 
Well, after listening to some of your work, indeed, your "help" is not needed here.
 
Ford Van said:
Well, after listening to some of your work, indeed, your "help" is not needed here.
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I love when people of your "caliber" try to put me down by saying bad things about the music that tons of actual respectable people have given me compliments on. But whatever. Continue to be the bitter soul that you constantly prove yourself to be. I could care less! :)
 
Thunder33 said:
I love when people of your "caliber" try to put me down by saying bad things about the music that tons of actual respectable people have given me compliments on. But whatever. Continue to be the bitter soul that you constantly prove yourself to be. I could care less! :)
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No, really. I listened to a few of your tracks. It actually started to hurt my ears. Grainy, hard sounding guitars. Drums that sound like they are cardboard boxes, and bass with so much low mids that there will never be life in that mix.

Dood, if that is your best presentation you can offer, I seriously don't really think much of any of your opinions. You either have a hearing problem, bad monitoring, or just never compare what you do to big time recordings to have a reference. Could be all of the above. Who knows.

In that mastering thread, you recommend that a guy doing a home recording, who probably would never sell more than a couple hundred copies of a self produced CD pay hundreds of dollars JUST for mastering! That is about that most stupid advice you can give!

What you really didn't give was ANY advice or encouragement for the guy to pursue mastering on his own. You go on and on about how you gotta have this and gotta have that to do a decent job.

Let me fill you in on something buddy. I win mastering jobs over other guys that do it a lot more, and have WAY better gear! How do I get it? Simply because I can mangle their audio just as bad/good for far less money, and will actually LISTEN to what the client wants.

My personal opinion is that most mastering engineers who run their own houses think FAR to highly of their skills. I hear these $60-120 an hour guys butchering the fuck out of home demo's. Most any joe, with the money they paid these so called "pro's" in mastering, could have purchased modest software, spent a bit of time experimenting, and came up with just as good of results!

Pull you head out of your ass. This is called "home recording" .com . Fishing around here for business is like hunting for a girlfriend in a lesbian bar!

The whole spirit of this site has to do with helping people do ALL phases of production themselves.

It appeared that in that thread, you didn't really have anything meaningful to share, yet you went on and on with advice anybody could have got from calling any mastering house. :rolleyes: . In the future, if you don't have anything to share to HELP the guy, or at least ENCOURAGE them to try it out, maybe you should quit padding your post count with posts that tell a guy with a home demo he probably won't sell to go spend $60+ an hour to have some ME do a half assed job on.
 
Ford Van said:
No, really. I listened to a few of your tracks. It actually started to hurt my ears. Grainy, hard sounding guitars. Drums that sound like they are cardboard boxes, and bass with so much low mids that there will never be life in that mix.

Dood, if that is your best presentation you can offer, I seriously don't really think much of any of your opinions. You either have a hearing problem, bad monitoring, or just never compare what you do to big time recordings to have a reference. Could be all of the above. Who knows.

In that mastering thread, you recommend that a guy doing a home recording, who probably would never sell more than a couple hundred copies of a self produced CD pay hundreds of dollars JUST for mastering! That is about that most stupid advice you can give!

What you really didn't give was ANY advice or encouragement for the guy to pursue mastering on his own. You go on and on about how you gotta have this and gotta have that to do a decent job.

Let me fill you in on something buddy. I win mastering jobs over other guys that do it a lot more, and have WAY better gear! How do I get it? Simply because I can mangle their audio just as bad/good for far less money, and will actually LISTEN to what the client wants.

My personal opinion is that most mastering engineers who run their own houses think FAR to highly of their skills. I hear these $60-120 an hour guys butchering the fuck out of home demo's. Most any joe, with the money they paid these so called "pro's" in mastering, could have purchased modest software, spent a bit of time experimenting, and came up with just as good of results!

Pull you head out of your ass. This is called "home recording" .com . Fishing around here for business is like hunting for a girlfriend in a lesbian bar!

The whole spirit of this site has to do with helping people do ALL phases of production themselves.

It appeared that in that thread, you didn't really have anything meaningful to share, yet you went on and on with advice anybody could have got from calling any mastering house. :rolleyes: . In the future, if you don't have anything to share to HELP the guy, or at least ENCOURAGE them to try it out, maybe you should quit padding your post count with posts that tell a guy with a home demo he probably won't sell to go spend $60+ an hour to have some ME do a half assed job on.
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ha! well, obviously, opinions differ. And when they do you can either be a dick, or move on. Later!
 
Thunder33 said:
ha! well, obviously, opinions differ. And when they do you can either be a dick, or move on. Later!
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You keep saying you are going to move on, but you keep posting! Either move on, or quit being a pussy and stand up for yourself if you think you got some point. Your little short "I think I am clever" crap is annoying!
 
I listened to the samples on the guy's site and yeah, the guitars are horrible. The mixing is actually not bad, the songs are also good, but the guitar tone is solid state shite direct to board. Dude, you have to redo the guitars or reamp the tones! Seriously, it makes your work worthless just cause of the horrendous guitar tone.
 
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