Nady Cm88 vs Behringer ecm8000

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Any one have experience with either of these mics or suggestions for other very cheap condensers. Im looking to use them as drum overheads. I know these wont produce stellar sounds im just looking for something that will be listenable for making a nice demo.
 
I don't have hands-on experience, but from reading these forums, I gather the Beri is an outright steal fro drum OH's. It's an omni, so if your room sucks, you will hear it.
 
The only time you should mention Behringer and outright steal in a sentence together is if you're refering to them outright stealing other peoples designs and selling them. I have personal experience with these mics and they both suck real bad. To me they're extremely harsh and brittle and do not in any way flatter the cymbals. I tried them as overheads and they were so harsh i had to turn the cymbals way down and do a bunch of corrective eqing. Next I tried them as hi hat mics, even worse. The minimum in mic quality I would go with would be mxl 604's. I believe they're almost twice as much but the sound difference would be immediately noticable. Don't do like I did and waste a bunch of money on a bunch of shitty equipment, in the long run its not worth it. It'd almost be better to use sm57's as overheads until you get a decent condensor because at least you could use the 57's on something else at a later time.
 
ermghoti said:
...but from reading these forums, I gather the Beri is an outright steal fro drum OH's. It's an omni, so if your room sucks, you will hear it.
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Seconded. And there are a lot of people here who feel the same way. Do a search for ECM8000. I own a pair, and find them very usable in a tamed room. However, before I got my room to obey my every command, the MXL 603's and my ADK SC1's were easier to place and get good sounds. I usually always reach for the ADK's first, but the Behringers do end up in some mixes on drums, and even once or twice as an ambient 2nd vocal mic.

Pete
 
I have one ECM8000, and it works perfectly for what I use it for, that being a measurement mic to test the frequency response of speaker systems. I've never used it for overheads or any other recording tasks, but for around $40, it'd be worth a try.
 
try a pair of rode nt5's, im not sure if that's too expensive for what you're looking for, but they're great for the money.

or just to be tricky, try the nt4!
 
according to a thread on PSW, the nady has a slightly lower output, but it also has a slightly lower self noise (esp. in the hi's, 15k ish area)

i'd get the nady, any improvement in self noise over the behringer is worth while.
 
I think I said I could probably make a whole album with nothing but an ECM8000.

Omni patterns and figure 8's are among the most useful patterns around but until I started mentioning omnis in the big thread, and the ECM8000 in the best bang for the buck thread, I doubt if very many HR members had even heard an omni, let alone owned one.

For under $40, I still think a small omni is one of the best buys an HR member can make.
 
Sorry Harvey.
I searched for the thread but could not find it.
I did not want to misquote you.


Once again sorry.
 
Not a problem, since I couldn't find it either. So, I just thought I'd restate the basic idea here.
 
jonnyc said:
The only time you should mention Behringer and outright steal in a sentence together is if you're refering to them outright stealing other peoples designs and selling them. I have personal experience with these mics and they both suck real bad. To me they're extremely harsh and brittle and do not in any way flatter the cymbals. I tried them as overheads and they were so harsh i had to turn the cymbals way down and do a bunch of corrective eqing. Next I tried them as hi hat mics, even worse. The minimum in mic quality I would go with would be mxl 604's. I believe they're almost twice as much but the sound difference would be immediately noticable. Don't do like I did and waste a bunch of money on a bunch of shitty equipment, in the long run its not worth it. It'd almost be better to use sm57's as overheads until you get a decent condensor because at least you could use the 57's on something else at a later time.
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+1 save your money and wait for a good deal. Get some 57's.
 
timboZ said:
I think Harvey once said if he had to use just only 1 mic it would be the ECM8000. I will try to find the post. I think it was on this board.
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He could if the guy wasnt particular about the ammount of noise on his CD. But theres enough budget SD condencers on the market nowdays at bargain prices that resorting to using Measurement mics would just be to impractical...Sorry Harvey but I cant see that one. :confused:
 
darrin_h2000 said:
He could if the guy wasnt particular about the ammount of noise on his CD. But theres enough budget SD condencers on the market nowdays at bargain prices that resorting to using Measurement mics would just be to impractical...Sorry Harvey but I cant see that one. :confused:
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You're right - you could set your sights on a pair of SDC mics from AKG, Studio Projects, MXL, Oktava, Shure, AT and lots of others for $200 a pair. If you think about it, the stretch from $80 to $200 isn't that far...

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