N-E one using Waves L3 or Doubler? Any cheaper alternatives?

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Anyone using these things? Are there any cheaper alternatives? I couldnt beleive how much the L3 is going for when I went and looked a few minutes ago. I've been using Timeworks Mastering COmpressor for about 2 years, and although I like it better than L1, it still does something to the sound I dont exactly like. But it DOES help get things up to the "loud" tha everyone wants.
Those kind of prices make me want to go hunting for a crack or keygen. The only thing I saw for L3 was well over $1000. For a plug, thats ridiculous for a normal person. Of anyone is using Doubler, send me a link to a sound clip and let me hear it.
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The hardware L2 unit used to sell for around $2500. That is for 2 channels ONLY!

Software version, you can run as many instances are your cpu can handle, and, the L3 sounds WAY better than the L2.

I think $1000 is a pretty screaming deal!

Voxengo Elephant sounds pretty good. Try the demo. On some stuff, I like it much better than the L3, but, overall, I think the L3 does the best job.
 
I use it, it was included in the WAVES diamond bundle, which I got for a steal..about 1200.

L3 is very nice.
 
Is there a limited time demo of L3 or Doubler availble. I didnt see anythinglike that at the site.
Waves use Dongles these days?
 
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Take a listen to the WaveArts FinalPlug 5. They have a 30 day fully functional demo of it. A lot cheaper than the Waves stuff, simpler less intrusive copy protection, and it sounds really really clean.
 
I think using L3 is a good way to heighten dynamic.
sure you can use other compress and limit to make the effect like that ,
but L3 can make the work become easier.

I have L3 vst .I use it everyday!
 
Limiters are usually reserved for the mastering engineer. The very reason an outboard L2 comes with two channels.

However keep in mind, the more you push your mixes, the more loss in transient response you're gonna have. (Percussive hits, attack is loss, punch is lost, etc)

Limiters aren't supposed to change the sound, they simply control or constrain.

Any more than 3db of attenuation on an L1/L2/L3 or something similar is probably too much and ends up sounding strained.

In that aspect, I couldn't think of any "cheap" limiting that remains transparent very well for that purpose. Maybe some focusrite stuff, maybe cheaper Waves stuff. Sony has a few plug ins some people like.
 
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The WaveArts FinalPlug is quite transparent, as is the Elemental Audio "Finis" plugin. I've done extensive listening tests, and these are two of the most transparent limiter plugins I've heard. Certainly on a par with the L2, and I actually prefer FinalPlug over the L2, which is why I sold my hardware L2.
 
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The WaveArts FinalPlug is quite transparent, as is the Elemental Audio "Finis" plugin. I've done extensive listening tests, and these are two of the most transparent limiter plugins I've heard. Certainly on a par with the L2, and I actually prefer FinalPlug over the L2, which is why I sold my hardware L2.
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Hmm, I definitly want to hear this for myself!
 
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Limiters are usually reserved for the mastering engineer. The very reason an outboard L2 comes with two channels.

However keep in mind, the more you push your mixes, the more loss in transient response you're gonna have. (Percussive hits, attack is loss, punch is lost, etc)

Limiters aren't supposed to change the sound, they simply control or constrain.

Any more than 3db of attenuation on an L1/L2/L3 or something similar is probably too much and ends up sounding strained.

In that aspect, I couldn't think of any "cheap" limiting that remains transparent very well for that purpose. Maybe some focusrite stuff, maybe cheaper Waves stuff. Sony has a few plug ins some people like.
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With the exception of not quite as fast of a attack, you set a compressor at 10:1 ratio, you pretty much have a limiter!

Limiting is used all over the place in audio. I would say that "slamming tape" on analog tape is more akin to limiting than it is compression.

Limiting is ALL OVER THE PLACE in the recording world!

I don't like labels such as "more than 3dB of limiting is too much". There are times when the sound you want REQUIRES more than that!

Also, I have been known to use a L2 on kicks, bass guitar, and vocals. There are times when it was the only thing that did the trick.

No rules! Just things we may never do again!
 
I'd second the Voxengo Elephant Limiter. I've used all the Waves limiters and end up reaching for the Elephant more often than not. Plus it's only 75 bucks!
 
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