my RNC wont compress enough

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ok..so we're recording a new song and the vocals are REALLY jumpy, and when i try and pump the RNC the gain reduction goes up too much and it sounds bad/quiet, or it starts making popping noises. so i try my JOEMEEK and it's just not dramatic enough and it's still jumpy. pleeeeease help..also i can only try settings a couple times because his voice starts going out. ) :

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do you have the release set too fast? it might be jumping cause the volume around the threshold keeps going up, down, up, down..
I know compression settings are worthless, but on something like the RNC, if you put all the knobs at the 12 o' clock position (straight up), that should be a good start, and giving you more than enough control.
 
i thought i've tried everything but i guess i'll try again tomorra.. thanks

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If I were you, I would NOT try to get "final" compression settings while tracking the voice. If you are going to use it at all, set it just enough to prevent clipping on the loudest transients.

When you mix, you can play with the settings to get the best sound at your leisure, without worrying about wearing out the voice of the performer.
 
) : i have a DAW so i don't have much freedom with inserts and shit... unless there's another way....

and also since i've only had experience with my joemeek which has XLR inputs on it...should the source be at the original level, or preamplified?? I'm plugging the mic into a bluetube.

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Are you using it in "SuperNice" mode? I'd assume so, since you've tried everything, but it's worth asking.

One other note -- the mic should be preamplified to line level before going into the RNC. You mention you're using a Blue Tube, so I assume you're running mic -> Blue Tube -> RNC, which is about what you should be doing.
 
what mic are you using...

consider changing mics, have the singer back up from the mic a bit and try again. this should considerably even out the volume.
let the air work for you, but note that the room will start playing a bigger role.
 
i'm using an nt1..i guess i could try using a moving coil mic for the really dramatic parts but the clarity just isn't the same ) : thanks a lot....

and IS there any way to use outboard compression after you recorded the track on a DAW?


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another method is have the singer sing past the mic, not at it. you can experiment with this using various angles.

i recommend considerations in mic placement as the next move before trying to use compression as a fix. get a move even input in the mic first, then touch it up with compression. i'd go for compression last, mic placement first. air is a compressor.
 
ad0lescnts said:

and IS there any way to use outboard compression after you recorded the track on a DAW?


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Route the output of the track to an output on your interface, go into the compressor, and then back into an input on your DAW. If your DAW can treat it as an insert, you are all set. If not, you will need to record the compressed track to a new track in your session.

Or why not just use a compression plug-in? That avoids the extra D/A and A/D conversions, and allows full automation and easier set-up.
 
hmm good ideas. i shall try mic placements

the compression plug ins on my dps16 are terrible. they dont seem to do anything.

does anyone know how to route an individual track out of the aux. sends on a dps16?? the manual is useless

thanks a lot
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by DAW do you mean a computer or a dedicated hard drive recorder?


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