my new drum set w/14 cymbals....

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My new set up:

pearl forum kit
12" 13'' 16'' 22'' drums
tama iron cobra dbl pedal
13x3 pearl steel piccolo
13x6 tama wood snare
14" china sabian
(2) 16" china sabian/paiste
(2) 20" rides sabian /paiste
(2) 14" hihats sabian
(2) 14" crashs sabian
(3) 16" crashs sabian/old zildjian
(2) 10" spashs sabian
all mounted on a 3pc pearl rack cage(this covers some land let me tell you!-there is a lot of hardware!)

Yes, there is to many cymbals, but im not planning on giging out right now so why not set up the "monster" kit in my house and be cymbal happy!!!!!!!!!!!

im thinking of adding on my 18" floor tom from my old kit and my old kick also---why not, i got 3 dbl kick pedals!
i feel like a mad scientist adding everything on this drum cage(insert "evil sadistic crush the world bad guy" laugh...ala Dr. Evil)
 
cymbal wise youre gettin up there with the drummer from the band ORIGIN (relapse records)
 
Dude, you need to trade in some of your smaller cymbals, sinc you have like 2 or 3 of everything, and get like an 18" crash that has some balls.
 
maskedman72 said:
cymbal wise youre gettin up there with the drummer from the band ORIGIN (relapse records)

John from Origin is fucking amazing! I studied his setup when i say them live in december.
Derik (hate eternal) has a drum video coming out this year.
 
yes the dude from origin can kill.
also the dude from cryptopsy rules ass and the mighty DAVE CULROSS is a drum god. and dont forget nick from lock-up.
the new issue of pit magazine has a section with the origin guy.
 
Why not have only 8 cymbals, and use the rest of the money to upgrade to an export series...:eek:...;)
 
VOXVENDOR said:
Why not have only 8 cymbals, and use the rest of the money to upgrade to an export series...:eek:...;)

i bought someones drumset, and as part of this really killer price, i got all of his shit. I had 6 cymbals, and 8 came w/ the kit.
I would like to get a 18" crash & 12" icebell.
All the cymballs are set up because... i have enough hardware-and i got enough hardware for 3 more cymbals, so why not! I would not play out w/ all those cyms. Its all a big toy till i figure out whats staying and whats going.
 
maskedman72 said:
yes the dude from origin can kill.
also the dude from cryptopsy rules ass and the mighty DAVE CULROSS is a drum god. and dont forget nick from lock-up.
the new issue of pit magazine has a section with the origin guy.

I cant wait for the next cryptopsy album, hopefully they have someone more like Lord Worm. Mike D is to "hardcore" for me.
Well, Mr.Culross is gonna have to get those suffocation guys back together.
In the pit zine ,john talks about the gravity blast, but i think the dude from devourment did it first(or maybe hes doing a hyper crush roll). But the jazz dudes have been doing it for a while.
 
New Cymbals...!

I just got me some Paiste 502s and 802s for my Home Studio kit (Yamaha Stage Custom), they sound as awesome as they look guys...!

YamPaiste1.jpg
 
another badass mother is the drummer from NILE. totally relentless double bass-blasting murder.
 
maskedman72 said:
another badass mother is the drummer from NILE. totally relentless double bass-blasting murder.

Yes he is. I saw this video taken at their rehersal space in tampa, when he was in necrosis, he kicked ass then. Then he roadied for cannible corpse, then played with angel corpse, then jumped w/nile for the black seeds tour.

Bad news about origin, seems they are taking time off for a while. So John's playing on the new skinless album and doin some live shows with them.
 
Commit Suicide

maskedman72 said:
yes the dude from origin can kill.
also the dude from cryptopsy rules ass and the mighty DAVE CULROSS is a drum god. and dont forget nick from lock-up.
the new issue of pit magazine has a section with the origin guy.

You guys should check out Lee from Commit Suicide. He is just simply amazing and technically devistating.
 
detuned6 said:
Ijohn talks about the gravity blast, but i think the dude from devourment did it first(or maybe hes doing a hyper crush roll)

What are "gravity blasts" and "hyper crush rolls"? Any older-school examples? (I'm not so up on my modern death/grind...)
 
esactun said:
What are "gravity blasts" and "hyper crush rolls"? Any older-school examples? (I'm not so up on my modern death/grind...)

John (origin) explains in the last issue of pit that a gravity blast (tag name) is " you take 2 blast beats and alter one off by one beat and use the rim of the snare as a fulcrum to pull it off, some think its a one handed thing, but not". The jazz guys invented this back in the day, and extreme metal drums are just taking it to a new level of speed. I gotta listen to more jazz music. Those cats are crazy with the lagato guitar runs.

"Hyper" i took that from Kataklysm.( extremlly fast blast.)

A crush roll(some call it other things) is using the bounce of the stick to the drum skin, w/ the addition of your pinky, = more hits faster , insted of manually hitting the drum many times.
Kinda like if you trill'ed (hammeron, pulloff, hammeron etc.) 2 notes on a guitar insted of manually speed picking the notes.

Esactun have you heard the last origin album, trust me its fuckin the "bomb" -fast stuff, over the top fast technically drumming, 3 vokillists, ...good stuff.
 
Thanks for the info!! :)

I haven't heard that record-- I'll check it out though. I'm jonesin' for some new good stuff.

I've actually been listening to jazz a lot lately. Some folks do some pretty crazy stuff in songs that don't sound crazy. It's pretty neat. Gene Krupa did a blast-beat sort of thing as a fill in his 1939 recording of his band's theme song, "Drummin' Man." I read that he was actually one of the first drummers to record with a kick drum-- early engineers couldn't control the boominess or something.

Another record I haven't heard (but wanna-- I think I heard a track on the college radio once but I can't be sure if it was actually this record)-- the collaboration between John Zorn and whatsisname (brain fart) drummer from Napalm Death. The track I heard was crazy-ass. It started nice and "normal" jazz sounding, cool jazz, and after a bit got really strange. Blast beats, noisy sax blasts, sudden snaps back into a coherent figure with the full band before breaking off into dissonant chaos again. The talent required must be immense. It was tight as hell.

PS: Finally decided on final mixes for two new PTARMIGAN trax! I "sold out"-- these tracks have a complete set of actual lyrics, rather than the quasi-Don Tardy thang I did before.... If I can "ass"-ter it good enuff I might even post it to the Cave. (I've been holding off out of fear of harming others' aural treble sensitivity due to an attack of the Digital Crispies.)
 
also if you want to hear relentless drumming from hell check out derek roddy of HATE ETERNAL'S king of kings cd.

if we are talking jazz the man is dennis chambers. that guy is fucking amazing!
 
esactun said:
Thanks for the info!! :)


Another record I haven't heard (but wanna-- I think I heard a track on the college radio once but I can't be sure if it was actually this record)-- the collaboration between John Zorn and whatsisname (brain fart) drummer from Napalm Death. The track I heard was crazy-ass. It started nice and "normal" jazz sounding, cool jazz, and after a bit got really strange. Blast beats, noisy sax blasts, sudden snaps back into a coherent figure with the full band before breaking off into dissonant chaos again. The talent required must be immense. It was tight as hell.


Jeff, check out Pan thi monium(this is not the right spelling) its on nuclear blast its danny swano doing this weird jazz, death stuff, really strange, theres jazz horns all over it w/ keyboards, death vokills, detuned guitars, i think you would like.
Have you heard Dillinger escape plan, these guys are pretty fucked up, hardcore jazz funk death(on relapse records) some good technical stuff.
Crank out that PTARMIGAN stuff!!!!! evil things that go bump in the night.....
 
maskedman72 said:
also if you want to hear relentless drumming from hell check out derek roddy of HATE ETERNAL'S king of kings cd.

if we are talking jazz the man is dennis chambers. that guy is fucking amazing!

Maskedman its good to have another extreme metal dude around. That hate eternal recording is so treblelly, it hurts at loud volumes. Their's like no low end, but all this hi end(ouch) on king of kings, but erik spews some cool dual guitar stuff and some killer lead work. Ive seen them twice for this tour. And now they are going on tour w/ kataklysm, dying fetus, and into eternaty.
Erik produced Pessimist's last album also, and that album is really a dry sounding album.
Suffocation is playing the maryland deathfest, how cool is that!
Noah from skinless got a endorsment from ibanez, lucky bastard! The bass player got one from esp.
 
yes metal rules!
i worship angelcorpse. i also like the new bloodbath cd and the new grave cd. i have the first pessimest cd and i love it. i too think that the new hate eternal cd sounds pretty bad. but not as bad as the lividity cd's or the first 2 internal bleeding cd's. i like fleshgrind also. so many great metal bands!
i heard that suffocation is doing a reunion show. is that what you speak of?
 
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