MXL v67g on acoustic guitar & in a mix

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Hey,
I've done one of these before, but have a specific question this time around.
EDIT: Not so much a question as it is a predicament that I could use some advice on.
Last paragraph explains the problem
First off, here's the MXL v67g going through an RNP into an Audiophile 192 into REAPER on acoustic guitar:

We placed the v67 at around the 12th fret about 12 inches away, perhaps a few inches more, then I duplicated the track and moved one of them 15 ms to the right, then hard panned them to produce a stereo image. A little EQ was done, but not that much, cut a few lows so it may still need some work.
The guitar was taken directly from the song below so it's a little repetitive, I would go to the last 1/3 of the clip to hear the most diversity.

Here's the MXL on vocals, acoustic guitar, and shaker. The bass was DI'd into the the RNP, the kick drum with a shure beta 52a, and snare, electric guitar, and rhodes with a 57. It's a rough mix, I think the vocals can come up a bit perhaps:


I have a friend who has a nice home studio that he has offered to let me use for free. It's about 2 hours from my house so it certainly wouldn't be that convenient to use, and of course recording on my schedule in my house would be a lot more stress-free. I can usually never get something down in one take, just the way I am, even if I'm recording myself. I'm afraid if I have the pressure of recording at someone else's place I'll get all wired and not be able to get anything done. But if I could get a noticeably better sound from there, I would of course consider greatly taking that option. I haven't recorded there yet but know some of his equipment. He has some nice mics, such as a pair of AKG 414's, and even a pair of Earthwork mics, and actually has an Earthworks preamp that I've never heard of (but it's made by earthworks so it's bound to sound great I'm guessing, he said it cost a few thousand I think) although he has a 52 channel digital mackie mixer that he says he usually uses for pre's though. And I think he has a Neumann TLM 103.

Comments on the clips, or my predicament would be appreciated,
Cheers!

Russell
 
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Well, you started out by saying you had a specific question this time around, but then never asked a question. There is, in fact, not a single question mark anywhere in the post. So...... I have no answer.
 
haha touche neighbor,
I guess it's more of a predicament that I want some advice on than a specific question, it's adressed in that fatty paragraph at the end
 
I edited my respose, but for some reason it didn't stick. What I added was....

I do have a comment though. I have always gotten more done in a shorter amount of time going to a studio than recording in my own. It forces you to have your sh*t together and your chops down. :)
 
I would like to hear alot less of the rolling stick thing that sounds like you are plalying them on a table top or counter of some kind. Turn them way down or get rid of them.
Then I would like to hear the mix with just one acoustic guitar instead of the doubling thing.
To me the instruments sound like they are all being phased or something like that.

I guess for me the music is just to busy and is to much of a distraction I would make it simpler.
 
If its free, there's no commitment aside from your own interest in the project. My recommendation would be to take a song you already know very well (even if its a cover), and go there and track for an afternoon or whatever, and see what the results are. If they are astoundingly different, I'd say work on your material there as much as he is willing to work with you. Otherwise, work in your house.

You might also be able to split your time, and record some things there, some things at your place (e.g. hand percussion doesn't need quite the accurate reproduction that, say, an acoustic guitar track does, so using a v67 w/ an RNP & Audiphile should do the job).

I only listened to the acoustic guitar track, over shitty headphones I have here at work, and the only thing I didn't like was what I am assuming is the pick noise.
 
Here is my take.

Your stuff sounds OK.
I can't comment on nit picks because I am listening at work on the computer, so the fidelity is not superb, but compared to other stuff I have listened to, it is... OK.
We all have room to grow.

Anyway, if you have the ability to go elsewhere to a place you KNOW has a better set up where you can just concentrate on playing you would be effectively setting a benchmark you can compare your personal studio work to. Particularly if all it costs you is the cost of a drive.

If it does not sound appreciable different than what you did...well ...you've learned something!
Likewise if it DOES sound totally different... you've learned something there too, maybe take some of what you experienced there and work towards incorporating the gear or ideas eventually into your place.

I'd do it!

Tom
 
I don't understand what your predicament is.

You record stuff ... have some equipment.

Some other guy you know also records stuff ... has some equipment.

What are you even asking? What is the point? I have equipment, and I record stuff as well. I also know other guys who have equipment and record stuff too. Does that mean I'm now part of your question? :D Oh my Gawd! What am I supposed to do?

I know guys who record ... who own STUFF to record with ! :D

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tmix said:
Here is my take.

Your stuff sounds OK.
I can't comment on nit picks because I am listening at work on the computer, so the fidelity is not superb, but compared to other stuff I have listened to, it is... OK.
We all have room to grow.

Anyway, if you have the ability to go elsewhere to a place you KNOW has a better set up where you can just concentrate on playing you would be effectively setting a benchmark you can compare your personal studio work to. Particularly if all it costs you is the cost of a drive.

If it does not sound appreciable different than what you did...well ...you've learned something!
Likewise if it DOES sound totally different... you've learned something there too, maybe take some of what you experienced there and work towards incorporating the gear or ideas eventually into your place.

I'd do it!

Tom
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Tom:

Well said and some excellent advice.
 
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