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philo68
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I have a song ,18 bars mm60 , then 8 bars mm88, then back to 18 mm60. I want to make the rhythm track with these parameters first. I'm very new to this. Can it be done?
mjbphotos
Moderator
Yes. What DAW are you using?
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philo68
New member
I'm using zoom r8 recorder. Also I probably should say I'm 69 yrs old and pretty old school. So if you don't care to engage me, I'll understand.
mjbphotos
Moderator
I was taught always to respect my elders! 
(I'm only 10 years behind you!)
First, if you haven't reveiwed the Zoom manual, you can access a copy here.
Taking a quick look at the manual, it does not appear that the tempo can be adjusted during a song. It says the metronome is controlled by the time signature, but the tempo itself is set outside the time signature area.
Another good reason to use a computer DAW rather than a stand-alone recorder.
(I'm only 10 years behind you!)First, if you haven't reveiwed the Zoom manual, you can access a copy here.
Taking a quick look at the manual, it does not appear that the tempo can be adjusted during a song. It says the metronome is controlled by the time signature, but the tempo itself is set outside the time signature area.
Another good reason to use a computer DAW rather than a stand-alone recorder.
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philo68
New member
Thanks for your feedback. The zoom r8 comes with a free downlaod of Cubase Le7 . If I use that program , will it have the necessary tools?
bouldersoundguy
Well-known member
I don't know anything about Cubase, but what you're looking for may be called "tempo map". Most DAWs I've used can do it though I rarely use such features.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Yes, it will have a Tempo Editor on the LE version. At least LE5 does. I assume LE7 will as well.
It will look like this:
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philo68
New member
Thanks. Imma gonna try the Cubase. The image you included was very helpful.
Armistice
Son of Yoda
Question is what the piece of music is going to sound like going from 60 to 88 in a blink... and then back.
I don't often do tempo changes in songs, but if I do, in the tempo map I'll put a speed up slow/down section for the last beat or two to make it all seem a bit more real... worth a thought.
I don't often do tempo changes in songs, but if I do, in the tempo map I'll put a speed up slow/down section for the last beat or two to make it all seem a bit more real... worth a thought.
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philo68
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This song is the only i ever wrote that does this, but it feels entirely natural in context. Like going form a heartbeat of 60 to agitated 88. The change comes right on the downbeat. Verse 60, chorus 88, verse 60 etc.
JimmyS1969
MOODerator
Let me know if you have issues setting up Cubase. It can be a pain at first...
Farview
Well-known member
That's normally the way songs with tempo changes work. One section is one time signature and tempo the next part is different. It should just snap to it because it's a different section.
But I've always done more progressive kind of stuff. A tempo that slowly drifts up would just sound sloppy in that context.
rob aylestone
Moderator
I use cubase all the time. The tempo editor works brilliantly. I have a friend with a 24 track zoom, and I spent a day trying to show him how he can do so much more in the computer, using his zoom just to get audio into the computer. It is a BIG change in technique. You can use it as an audio interface just a way to get stuff in and out in real time, or you can load the zoom's files into cubase physically on a card.
The tempo track is very accurate, so when I record classical music, you can put in all sorts of big or little tempo changes. If you like working with time signatures, they too can be adjusted in the same way, so you can add a linking 2/4 bar, then go into ⅞ and back to 4/4. You can do nice falls, putting in tempo changes as a row of semi quavers (8th notes) go through, dropping the tempo a little on each one. It takes time to learn cubase, but if you are musical the results are worth the effort. The zoom's are great recorders, but what they can do with the music is pretty much what we could do in 1980!
The tempo track is very accurate, so when I record classical music, you can put in all sorts of big or little tempo changes. If you like working with time signatures, they too can be adjusted in the same way, so you can add a linking 2/4 bar, then go into ⅞ and back to 4/4. You can do nice falls, putting in tempo changes as a row of semi quavers (8th notes) go through, dropping the tempo a little on each one. It takes time to learn cubase, but if you are musical the results are worth the effort. The zoom's are great recorders, but what they can do with the music is pretty much what we could do in 1980!
Armistice
Son of Yoda
Who said anything about slowly? And going up and going down aren't necessarily the same thing... but whatever.
Farview
Well-known member
I just meant that if the next part is supposed to be at a different tempo, it should be at that tempo when the part starts. Anything other than the instant change would be slow within the context of the genre.
I used up as an example, I could have easily said down.