multiband compressor in master

[NYMorningstar]

Crossover sets the frequencies where one band starts fading and the next band starts taking over. The crossovers are represented on your graph by the vertical white lines. They basically set the overall width and placement of each of your four bands of compression.

You should learn how to get you mixes to sound good without using Blowzone in mastering first. Then if/when you do decide that you need to use Blowzone in mastering, the results will sound 5 times better than they do now.

G.

I'm not familiar with his software but is he using it as a MBC or a limiter?

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

I'm not familiar with his software but is he using it as a MBC or a limiter?

Based upon the settings he's showing in that screenshot, he is using the MBC as an MBC. He is crunching everything but the high end pretty strictly, but it's far from typical limiting levels. The only reason he's probably not getting the high frequencies very much is because of the high threshold setting. Plus he does have each band set differently, so he is running truely "multiband".

G.

 

[NYMorningstar]

I guess I was curious what the checkmark was in the limiter option.

 

[BLP]

Based upon the settings he's showing in that screenshot, he is using the MBC as an MBC. He is crunching everything but the high end pretty strictly, but it's far from typical limiting levels. The only reason he's probably not getting the high frequencies very much is because of the high threshold setting. Plus he does have each band set differently, so he is running truely "multiband".

G.

LOL that is not my screen shot that came off the Internet!

 

[SouthSIDE Glen]

LOL that is not my screen shot that came off the Internet!

Well, never mind, then, I guess

I guess I was curious what the checkmark was in the limiter option.

I'm not absolutely positive, but I believe those are options that can be *added to* the MBC function. IOW, when the limiter is turned on, the MBC settings are still in effect and one is still mauling the bands, and if the post-MBC signal still pushes the limits (easy if the makeup gain settings for each band are high enough), the signal still hits the limiter.

G.

 

[kcearl]

I dont have much to offer BLP other than my own limited experience..

I never put anything on the master bus...I know this is a preference thing but Ive never needed it...as for using a multiband on my finished mixes Ive found that generally it works far better on the dance music I produce than it does with more traditional guitars and drums etc...generally just a stereo compressor bring ups the levels nicely on rock/indie stuff


I'd put that down to the muti actually enhancing the dance music whether to produce some pumping in a certain range to producing a little unnatural sparkle in the HFs..and I use it to some success imo...

but anything unnatural with guitar music just sounds..well unnatural and ruins most of the work you've put into it...maybe if I had a better ear but at the moment Im happy with the progression

 

[BLP]

I dont have much to offer BLP other than my own limited experience..

I never put anything on the master bus...I know this is a preference thing but Ive never needed it...as for using a multiband on my finished mixes Ive found that generally it works far better on the dance music I produce than it does with more traditional guitars and drums etc...generally just a stereo compressor bring ups the levels nicely on rock/indie stuff


I'd put that down to the muti actually enhancing the dance music whether to produce some pumping in a certain range to producing a little unnatural sparkle in the HFs..and I use it to some success imo...

but anything unnatural with guitar music just sounds..well unnatural and ruins most of the work you've put into it...maybe if I had a better ear but at the moment Im happy with the progression

When I record hip hop is when I put the MBC on the master input. It seems to give my mix more feeling after I adjust the individual bands.

I've been told here I'm doing something wrong but to my ears and others that listen to this genre think it's a good thing.

Maybe the genre of music matters weather it's appropriate to put an MBC on master input

I'd go hang out in the hip hop forum but just because my main clientele does that music doesn't mean that's ALL I want to learn.

 

[oretez]

I've been told here I'm doing something wrong but to my ears and others that listen to this genre think it's a good thing.

Maybe the genre of music matters weather it's appropriate to put an MBC on master input

I was one that was somewhat credulous about the need for a MBC across the master bus, but it was not so much a matter of saying you were doing something wrong as that there were ways that were both more flexible and more precise (without attendant negative artifacts that can accompany use of MBC) to achieve same/similar results

once you indicated that you were working in a situation where you had no control of individual voices that changed situation enough that i simply no longer had a general opinion about MBC . . .


there are always going to elements that are fashionable within any mass marketed genre. It is not unusual for the fashion to be associated with a technique or bit of hardware . . . one of the things that continues, at times, to surprise me is how many of the same things I like and respect about Fletcher Henderson (band) productions from the '20's are found in HipHop that I appreciate from the 90's. It is not that they are the same, nor is there necessarily a direct line from one to the other, but same principles that made good music in the 20s (and of course earlier) remain useful in 2011 (and beyond)

but the thing that you will hear repeated, repeatedly, here is that only occasionally is there an absolutely wrong way to do something. We all have individual, at times conflicting, aesthetic opinions, but any time you are in the drives seat (whether by invitation or because you usurped it) the final arbiter of 'right/wrong' is your own judgment, your own ears.