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eljay
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I am using the sound forge Multi-Band Compressor. What numbers am I looking for when it comes to the LOW SHELF, MID and HIGH? Any one have a good idea of what I should be shooting for?
strmkr
New member
It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish with it. A multi band comp is a useful tool but can take awhile to get the hang of using one.
You can use multiband limiting as what I like to call a "smart assed eq".
Say you have finished tracking,you're mixing and you discover that the guitar track sounds great except when he hits "that" note in the walkup,yeah,you know the one,"that" note has a loud transient peak centered at 250 hz that is driving you nuts.And while you are listening,you hear a few other places win the track where 250 is rearing its ugly head,but you find that if you cut eq across the board centered at 250 across however much bandwidth this thing is occupying,it takes it out of the rest of the track where 250 isn't a problem.Enter the multiband.You want it to take the 250 centered ugly down on "that damn note" when he hits it and leave the rest of the track alone.Set it up as you would a normal limiter,then set the freq. and bandwidth to fit the freq. you are going after. same thing with de-essing.You have this hot female singer and want to take the sibilance out of her track,but find that eqing it out also takes out the '"breathy" or "airy" quality you like in her voice so much.Works the same way,get it to hit the "ssss" and leave everything else alone.
You gotta use your ears and spend some time fooling with it to learn it.
i am sure there is a lot I have left out,so I will leave you with the hope someone with a little more knowledge of these things comes along to impart a little more about it.
Good luck and have a great day!
You can use multiband limiting as what I like to call a "smart assed eq".
Say you have finished tracking,you're mixing and you discover that the guitar track sounds great except when he hits "that" note in the walkup,yeah,you know the one,"that" note has a loud transient peak centered at 250 hz that is driving you nuts.And while you are listening,you hear a few other places win the track where 250 is rearing its ugly head,but you find that if you cut eq across the board centered at 250 across however much bandwidth this thing is occupying,it takes it out of the rest of the track where 250 isn't a problem.Enter the multiband.You want it to take the 250 centered ugly down on "that damn note" when he hits it and leave the rest of the track alone.Set it up as you would a normal limiter,then set the freq. and bandwidth to fit the freq. you are going after. same thing with de-essing.You have this hot female singer and want to take the sibilance out of her track,but find that eqing it out also takes out the '"breathy" or "airy" quality you like in her voice so much.Works the same way,get it to hit the "ssss" and leave everything else alone.
You gotta use your ears and spend some time fooling with it to learn it.
i am sure there is a lot I have left out,so I will leave you with the hope someone with a little more knowledge of these things comes along to impart a little more about it.
Good luck and have a great day!
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volltreffer
Imply depressed
High!
At first I must say that I'm not a pro, but I've tried a bit with the multiband stuff... Perhaps you'll get help from someone who has some real mastering experience...
At first, it seems to depend on what you wanna do with the multiband thing. If you use it on a mix, you might separate bands containg mostly BD, BASS,VOX/GIT and HIGHS. These can be compressed in the mix...
On the other hand, I like these multband thangs alot on individual tracks (voice and snare, e.g. -- I use the TC triple c or the VS880EX MTK). There might be some nice stuff in the manual of the TC finalizer express. They have three bands but if I remember it right, they have settings for different styles as examples. I'D have a look for presets that came with your comp (if there are some) first... Often its nice to have them to understand (in a intuitive, not in the intellectual kind) the way the multiband compressors work. You have to experiment a lot, if you don't have presets.
Lower bands might need slower attack and release than higher ones...
You might check out what's in the bands with an EQ first, just to get a feeling...
Try not to split the characteristic freqs of one instrument. If another sound triggers a compression in that band, while the instrument is playing at low volume, you may have breathing of one instrument, it suddenly ducks away...
Hope that I didn't confuse you more than I helped
Ciao
Axel
At first I must say that I'm not a pro, but I've tried a bit with the multiband stuff... Perhaps you'll get help from someone who has some real mastering experience...
At first, it seems to depend on what you wanna do with the multiband thing. If you use it on a mix, you might separate bands containg mostly BD, BASS,VOX/GIT and HIGHS. These can be compressed in the mix...
On the other hand, I like these multband thangs alot on individual tracks (voice and snare, e.g. -- I use the TC triple c or the VS880EX MTK). There might be some nice stuff in the manual of the TC finalizer express. They have three bands but if I remember it right, they have settings for different styles as examples. I'D have a look for presets that came with your comp (if there are some) first... Often its nice to have them to understand (in a intuitive, not in the intellectual kind) the way the multiband compressors work. You have to experiment a lot, if you don't have presets.
Lower bands might need slower attack and release than higher ones...
You might check out what's in the bands with an EQ first, just to get a feeling...
Try not to split the characteristic freqs of one instrument. If another sound triggers a compression in that band, while the instrument is playing at low volume, you may have breathing of one instrument, it suddenly ducks away...
Hope that I didn't confuse you more than I helped
Ciao
Axel