Much closer.....Give Up mix 2

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Better bass and drums...I think.
Much clearer vocals.
Still need to maybe vol. envlope the cymbals a bit.


Give it a check Chrisharris....oh and anyone else.

Keep telling me stuff about how it doesn't seem right to have no chorus or lead, that stuff kills me.


Thanks for the many responses and opinions so far on this song, you guys are the best.

:)

At the bottom of the page called "Give Up almost there"

www.nowhereradio.com/artists/album.php?aid=2012&alid=-1
 
Its still a great song. Theres something about the tune that makes me want to keep listening when I'm listening (you know what I mean). Like I'm thinking to myself, whats going to be next and when. To me its a very different arrangement in songwriting and it keeps my attention, and its just a cool song.
 
Much better. The bass is closer to where it should be, and the cymbals are more in control.

Your voice reminds me a little of Lou Barlow (Sebadoh, Folk Implosion).
 
The lyrics in case anyone wants to read along...

Give Up

"Yes I know what I've said before
Now please hear me say ignore that hole
Stop digging and where would you go
No matter where you are, you know, you know,
you know no matter where you are
Give up find love, now
You don't need to be so brave
Someone else will dig that grave or should I say
Somebody already has...

What you were before will always be on between you and me so
Give up find love, this life won't end until you find your way
In fact it won't begin until that day
So give up find love, give up find love now
Give up find your self with someone or something
To hold onto if you don't come through
Hurts to try so hard to get nowhere, nowhere again
When you don't come through but you could if you wanted to
So make your open heart the mark on everything you touch
Make your open heart the mark on everything you touch...

And you'll find your way through
Any goal you put ahead of you
It won't be limited by your scope of sight or your mind
It won't be limited by the force you've got in your head
So open your heart and make your mark and make your mark...
Open your heart and make your mark"
 
Jake, Good song...Bring up the vox..They sound pretty dam good would cool if you brought them up a couple of db..No reason to bury them!Check your ryh. guit theres a slight push and pull I think..very good work! just needs some house keepin'..P.S.I listened on Shitty headphones..so a lack of bass/drums presents is prob. on my end..Also the lack of a chorus is no biggie..You could do something with the arang. and prod. if you wanted to give it a "chour." feel..maybe a little layering or something..anyways good job


Don
 
Hi Henry, yeah that push and pull feel is really my thing on guitar, I like it. The bass and drums are up a lot but the vocal might stand to come up a bit I guess..
I have no desire to add any chorus or anything at this point I'm digging the steamlined way about this song.

I would rather not take mix suggestions from a headphone point of veiw too seriously, I'm sure you understand that. Let me know if you monitor it somewhere else as well.

Thanks for checking it out.
 
Good song, nice recording---bass and guitars have a nice tight sound---nice to hear real drums for a change---not picking up the kick---hi-hats sound the slightest bit phasey--how do you mic up the drums??I get the same thing on hi-hat heavy songs-the hats through the snare mic make me pull my hair out...I like mixing the vocals like an instrument the way you do here--but the words are pretty hard to make out at times--especially towards the end--"It won't be limited..." those lines are very hard to make out IMO....How bout a harmony vocal occasionally? Plenty of places to add one..or having two sets of lines going at once-vocal round??I don't know--I realize this aint a beach boys song here...Real nice prgression-good flow to the song. On about the 10th listen-enjoying it.
 
Stratomaster, the drums are not "real" but it is played. I use only 1 mic for two or three cymbals and hat. The skin tones are a Yammy mu-50 triggered from an SPD 6 pad. I record to four tracks One effects print in mono, one mic and stereo mu50 outs. I'm kinda limited being in a little apartment but if the drums even fool anyone into hearing real drums I'm happy as hell.

Thanks for the listen I'll try to mess with the eq of the cymbals to reduce that phasey thing.
I am going to do a bit of mixing in a day or two but after tracking for two days straight I am in no shape to mix yet.

Good advice.....appreciated.

;)
 
Was that a retrack of the vocals or just a remix?

Sounded much clearer but it also brought out a lackluster vibe to the performance, like you were getting tired of singing it again.

Personally I think you need to get the lately MIA H/Reccer, one Teddie Tapawan, aka
Teddie to do the vocals on this great tune. Great lyrics need a great vocal performance. Your voice is certainly good enough, but pay attention to keeping the energy up to the pace of the emotion in the words themselves and the driving guitar riff.

Compare and contrast what he did for this tune:

"I drank a lot today" at:

http://mp3.com/smartapple
 
Hell-I was just about to come back and edit my post-when I discovered the whacked out eq settings someone left on the winamp player. Hmm only 1 mic on the cymbals-I guess that rules out phase problems lol. I think I'm out of phase.
 
Thanks doc I think you're right, I was getting tired...a bit past my sparkle hour. I will retrack this one. I would rather have you over to rape my dog than give this to someone else to sing.

Strat thanks, that takes a load off my mind.
 
jake-owa said:
I would rather have you over to rape my dog than give this to someone else to sing.
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You don't need to be so brave
Someone else will dig that grave or should I say
Somebody already has...

Open your heart and make your mark




Oh yeah. Is your dog good looking? :D
 
drstawl said:
You don't need to be so brave
Someone else will dig that grave or should I say
Somebody already has...

Open your heart and make your mark




Oh yeah. Is your dog good looking? :D
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She's a 7 but in the dark with makeup she's a 9.4.

She'd get pissed if she knew I called her that....I wouldn't have to if we had a pet.
 
A very cool song. I agree with the Lou Barlow comment. Good vox.
You should bring them up. Maybe bring the guitars down a little when your singing - that might not work though, cause guit and vox are both pretty constant throughout the song.
 
better mix on this one. I think this is more alive sounding. The other one sounded pale like it was masked or in blanket. This one has more dynamics and a little bigger.
Singing is good and much clearer and cleaner here, but sounds in a few spots like energy level dips a tad.
 
I agree this one sounds better, cleaner. I don't remember if I commented on the other mix.

I really like the feel and the sound of your voice, I would just like to hear it better. I think the vocs need to come up! Of course some people said the mix I have on the board right now has the vocs to high. ;) :)

I also don't like the snare sound but that is completely preference so ignore.

It's a good song, finish it up!
 
Hey Jake - I'm starting to think I'm not qualified to comment on this one anymore; I listened to the first one too much, lol. As such, I haven't read this thread, b/c I'm trying to be as independently original as possible, lol.

Okay, the overall SOUND on your vocal is, I think, a lot cooler. Cleaner is not always better, but I think it definitely is here.

It's definitely got more ass, but it's not muddied up on my monitors, so that's another positive. I don't know jack about bass and/or drums, but they're not distracting me on this, so I'd say you're good there. I'm no drum nazi, lol.

Fuck, I love the guitar sound. It's not grating at all, but they cut through.

Now, here's the part where I totally piss me (and maybe you) off. Even though the sound of the vocal is cleaner, I don't like it as much...it's the performance, I think. You sound kinda' baked, lol. ... OR NOT BAKED ENOUGH. It's just missing some intensity that was there before...I can't explain it any better than that, b/c the notes sound the same, I think, and the levels are cool to me and everything...but there was something in that first vocal that was cooler to me. It's so much better in every other way, though...so I don't know if I'd retrack it or anything because of some burnout on a BBS doesn't think it's "intense" enough, lol.

Ignore me, dude...I'm thinking that I'm nitpicking at this point.
 
No, fuck that. I felt the energy drop too. I already retracked some better vocs and I'll mix them this afternoon and repost.

Glad to know I'm on tatget mixwise though.

Thanks Chris.

I'll check your song out this evening....gotta run.
 
I just realized something. Not having a hook IS your hook. I think this song is cool as is.But I still think the fiver would be cooler.
 
Mbuster....fiver? Sorry, I did not get that.



I'm playing hookey today so I'll have time to work on this and post it.

Give me a couple hours.
 
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