mp3 protection programs

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how can i make my mp3's that people download only for one user?

I'm figuring out the best way to sell my cd. I'm thinking about just making a paypal link button that routes you to ...

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_send-money

and then they put in 10.60 and i send them the mp3's.

i would pretty much make 10 bucks.

maybe i should just have people put in orders and i just send it via snail mail...

anyways...anyone use mp3 protection software that can recommend a program?
 
If you want to protect your songs, you may have to use WMA format (DRM), which is a Windows Media Audio format. Still not 100% secure, but MP3s don't provide any security methods of their own.

You can encrypt the MP3 file but then the person would have to use a special MP3 player to play the MP3 file and that's just ridiculous.

There really isn't anything you can do to prevent someone from copying your MP3 and giving it to someone else or putting it on file sharing.

CDs have their own copy protection methods but none which haven't been bypassed.

Welcome to the digital world.
 
Basic Rule: If it can be played, it can be re-recorded.

Quit worrying about how to lock up your music and instead worry about how to make music so good everyone will be throwing money at you.

....that's exactly why the major record labels are dying....
 
cello_pudding said:
how about m4p files then
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I think they use DRM too, but I'm not familiar with m4p files or iTunes.

A quick google search for "m4p files" brings up several sites that apparently have already bypassed it.
 
cello-pudding,

Sounds pretty expensive for a CD of mp3 quality tunes. $.99 download is pretty standard but that's for one song/mp3, one time. The consumer can choose just one tune from your CD. If you only offer people the option to buy your whole CD then in my estimation it should be CD quality. Did I read your post wrong? Also no artwork or liner notes?


The rest of the idea sounds interesting however you'd better have a big online footprint and plenty of hits.

Rusty K
 
never mind. there's nothing out there. end of thread.

i think i'll just burn them and sell them in person only.

I just think it's ridiculous to write/record/produce/master/do album art/ and then when the money get's involved...oh hey...can i rape you of 40% of the profit's? (like it is if you sell your cd on itunes or snocap...) and you can say...just live with it...but i don't want to. i mean...i've worked hours upon hours upon hours....practicing multiple instruments, studying music, composing music, recording music, mixing this music...and i want to sell my soul for 40% of one dollar? they're not exposing me. i'm not getting advertisement. they have a barn where i can store my hand made 1963 corvette and they'll get 40% or what i sell it for?

10 dollars for an 11 or 12 track album seems fine. mp3 quality? you have to be joking. you know that there are very few people that can even tell the difference right? and even if they could they're not listening on NS10 monitors or whatever...they're listening on their crappy cd player or computer speakers or ipod. even on monitors and listening to 160kbps bitrate mp3's i'm not paying attention to the sound quality. i'm listening to the freaking music.

liner notes and artwork? when was this thread about liner notes and artwork??

yes, there are liner notes and artwork. you people are all concerned about whether or not there's an apple and milk with your sandwich. when will people care about content and ride off the crap that doesn't matter instead of asking "hey, where's my crap that doesn't matter? i don't care if its rotten and curdling and diseased, it just better come in a clean package and look purty"


end rant.
 
cello_pudding said:
they have a barn where i can store my hand made 1963 corvette and they'll get 40% or what i sell it for?
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Not only do they give you a place to sell music but also free advertising. Like a big car lot where millions of people go to look for a car each day...

I don't really know how this is relevant though. You were asking about how to keep people from copying/giving out your music and now it seems like you're talking about selling music on another website like say iTunes or CDBaby or something.

If it makes you feel better, I'm making a site that you can download and upload to your own site to sell music and you can keep 100% of the profits. Should be done in the near future.

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=248281

It will allow people to order individual songs or whole albums from your site using PayPal and (hopefully) Google CheckOut also. And it will be freeware.
 
bahah...advertising?

how many people are going to search for my name by randomly pushing keys?

there's millions of people searching for music...not mine...and if they are randomly playing people...there's a billion other people just in the folk/indie genre that they can choose from.

i don't see an advantage.
 
Look, it's called "business". Everybody gets their hand "greased" a little bit. It also take a huge amount of time and money to establish a website that provides this service to the artist while at the same time attracting consumers to the site. That deserves compensation as well. We can argue about how much of course.

It's not easy to do everything all by yourself. "Jack of all trades master of none" might be an apt. phrase.

Rusty K
 
cello_pudding said:
bahah...advertising?

how many people are going to search for my name by randomly pushing keys?

there's millions of people searching for music...not mine...and if they are randomly playing people...there's a billion other people just in the folk/indie genre that they can choose from.

i don't see an advantage.
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Then sell your MP3s from your own website...

By the way, they charge to cover:
Enormous bandwidth fees
Any possible legal fees
Storage space for your songs (which isn't much)
Any fees they get charged for processing purchases
etc.​

Most sites don't charge that much. It's not hard to buy a domain name, and sell your songs from your website.
 
Selling music yourself from your website is cool, but could be a huge waste of time.

Tell me which one is more likely:

A. A person notices your music is sold on itunes and buys it.
B. A person notices your music is on sale through paypal, just set up an account.

I think you may sell some more music through option A. Just sayin'.

Now from another point of view:

A. You sell through iTunes, you never need to do anything besides advertise and cash your checks.

B. You need to pull people to your website to buy the songs, then people get turned off by needing to register a paypal account. What is paypal? I don't trust them.

See what I'm getting at?

Just giving you some ideas.
 
Um, people don't need to register a PayPal account to buy your music. That option is in your PayPal account settings.
 
O. Thought you needed to register.

Ok, so I'll just stay with my other point: What is paypal? Do I trust them with my credit card info?

Paypal is a cool option, but I have no doubt that you will sell less music on your own than through iTunes, eMusic, and Napster.
 
songwritten said:
O. Thought you needed to register.

Ok, so I'll just stay with my other point: What is paypal? Do I trust them with my credit card info?

Paypal is a cool option, but I have no doubt that you will sell less music on your own than through iTunes, eMusic, and Napster.
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If your music is popular and on iTunes then people would most likely just buy it there instead of the website. But it's nice to have the option on your website as well instead of saying "Find our music on iTunes" or something, in case they don't use iTunes or just came across your website and want to buy the music right then.

PayPal is pretty much the standard, or at least, most popular way to send money over the internet. Millions of people use it, so I wouldn't worry about giving them your bank info. I've been using it awhile and never had any problems.
 
danny.guitar said:
If your music is popular and on iTunes then people would most likely just buy it there instead of the website. But it's nice to have the option on your website as well instead of saying "Find our music on iTunes" or something, in case they don't use iTunes or just came across your website and want to buy the music right then.

PayPal is pretty much the standard, or at least, most popular way to send money over the internet. Millions of people use it, so I wouldn't worry about giving them your bank info. I've been using it awhile and never had any problems.
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I understand. I'm registered on paypal and use it often. The point I was trying to make is that there are MILLIONS of people that have iPods that don't know ANYTHING about computers. They know how to go into iTunes, go to the music store, and click "buy song." It is nice to be able to sell music from an individual website, but it is also very important to make sure it gets on iTunes and that you have a direct link to your music on iTunes to put on your site.
 
songwritten said:
I understand. I'm registered on paypal and use it often. The point I was trying to make is that there are MILLIONS of people that have iPods that don't know ANYTHING about computers. They know how to go into iTunes, go to the music store, and click "buy song." It is nice to be able to sell music from an individual website, but it is also very important to make sure it gets on iTunes and that you have a direct link to your music on iTunes to put on your site.
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Agreed. :)

If only everyone could be fortunate enough to have their songs on iTunes though. ;)
 
danny.guitar said:
Agreed. :)

If only everyone could be fortunate enough to have their songs on iTunes though. ;)
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Mine are. Yours could EASILY be on there too. Cdbaby and Tunecore or something like that does it. It's easy. Check it out.
 
Why is this an argument? Put it on your website AND iTunes AND CDBaby. Any sales you get, even from a site that takes a 40% cut, is extra money. 60% of something is better than 100% of nothing.

FYI, my website gets about 6,000 hits a day. It takes a fair amount of effort to get to that level, and still that isn't much. I don't have a CD for sale (yet), but I am not counting on selling many of them off my website.

If you want to move CDs, you need a complete marketing strategy. The best way is to sell at local shows. Internet only marketing is tough. It's hard to get those eyeballs. Start thinking about how you are going to do that, whether it's to your site or CDBaby or iTunes or whatever. You have to drive traffic to your product yourself.
 
songwritten said:
Mine are. Yours could EASILY be on there too. Cdbaby and Tunecore or something like that does it. It's easy. Check it out.
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I always figured it was hard to get on iTunes. I have heard TuneCore mentioned on this forum but didn't read past their main page.

And definitely what mshilarious said, there's never too many options. Put your music everywhere you can.

And 6,000 hits a day on a website is something to be proud of. :) (Not being sarcastic).
 
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