MOTU Freaking Rules!

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I just wanted to relay this experience while it was fresh on my mind. :)

So I just got a package from Sweetwater that I ordered Monday morning. BTW, those guys rule. They said they thought it wouldn't go out until Tuesday, but it went out Monday anyway. FedEx Saver arrived in two days instead of three. I was expecting it Friday and got it today, so I'm already happy before I even open the box.

Inside the package, I got two of the new MOTU 8Pre audio interfaces. Out of the box, I immediately got the feeling that this hardware was in a completely different class than my FIREPOD or my M-Audio gear. It has an actual built-in power supply with a standard three-prong plug. A real freaking ground on an audio interface. Thank you, God! My prayers have been answered! (No, still no girlfriend.... :( I meant my OTHER prayers.)

I decided to minimize the CPU load by setting it up with only one of them hooked up to my computer and the other one acting like a 2x ADAT preamp. After a few minutes of playing with it (and yes, I had to read the manual to figure out how to set up the interface that wasn't connected to the computer), everything looked good.

One tiny snag: if you set up the thing using the front panel controls, it stays in stand-alone preamp mode even if you connect a computer. Since I played with both interfaces, I had to power cycle the one for my computer to see it. No big. Had me freaking out for all of five minutes before I realized what had probably gone wrong, power cycled it, and it showed up instantly. I chuckled heartily at myself for ever doubting MOTU.

A few minutes and a driver install later (it's not a FireWire AVC compliant device, which is unfortunate, but oh well), I can see the interface in all its glory. All eight inputs from that device, all eight inputs from the second one, all running at 96 kHz. This is a setup that I had been fighting to get working for MONTHS using my M-Audio FW1814 and my Presonus FIREPOD syncing over S/PDIF.

Best of all, instead of eating basically 100% of one of my four CPUs like the M-audio FW1814 seems to do frequently, the pair of MOTU 8Pre interfaces was sitting there with a couple of pixels of green on the far left site of the CPU indicator, varying by maybe a pixel or two. Holy freaking crap! And Digital Performer seems more responsive with these things attached... probably because the CPU load from the interfaces is so much lower.

I haven't done any actual audio tests with the thing yet. It's late at night, I'm tired, and I'm going to crash. I'll do that Saturday. If what I've seen thus far is any indication, though, I have a feeling this is going to be a beautiful friendship, and I suspect that I'm going to seriously be recommending the MOTU interfaces at every possible opportunity.

The difference between everything working within in the first few minutes with these things versus slamming my head against the wall for months with the other three interfaces I've worked with has been like that of night and day. The MOTU gear might cost a little more than the competition, but now that I have seen the light, I'm never going back into the darkness.

Seriously. It's as much of an "aha" moment as when I ran a UNIX OS for the first time. (Except maybe a little more so because it took about eight hours less to download and install the software than it did back then. :D)

Just thought some folks would like to hear my experience which this brand new piece of gear, particularly since it has only been on the market for about two weeks.
 
Good to hear :)

Although I must say, I've heard some pretty bad things about MOTU interface drivers for windows. Might not be the case with your product though.
 
Halion said:
Good to hear :)

Although I must say, I've heard some pretty bad things about MOTU interface drivers for windows. Might not be the case with your product though.

Don't know. The last time I used Windows was in a mandatory "Computer Literacy" class in High School.

I completed the hour's work in 5-10 minutes on average, then spent the rest of the hour writing a movie script. The lab had exactly one game, written in GW Basic. Let's just say I tweaked a bit of the projectile trajectory math before the school year was over. :D

Oh, and if your teacher ever tells you "You can't possibly get up to 20 WPM typing with two fingers," just know that if you're a pianist who can memorize the content easily and already knows how to touch type, converting to using two fingers doesn't make much difference in speed. 65 WPM down from eighty-something. Just to annoy the teacher.

What a waste. That's 180 hours of my life I'll never get back.
 
Good to hear...

I use an 896HD, and am thinking about getting another soon...no hassles, great piece of gear, and I think well worth the money.

never had any problems with drivers though..
 
The first DAW I ever experienced was DP3, and I have an 828mkII which I love (on a PC). I'm a big MOTU fan as well. My only regret is that the Traveler wasn't out when I bought my rig. The 8Pre looks very cool.
What's your opinion about only having the 1 pair of analog line outputs though? I know you also have the headphone out, but the only thing that seemed missing to me was a second pair of analong line outs, for a cuemix or something like that.
 
RAK, did you ever have problems with your 828mkII on PC?
 
Primarily the MOTU PC problems were concerning the older pci324 cards and certain chipset/motherboard combinations. I have never really heard of any widespread problems with any of their firewire devices, or even the PCI324 card. It's a good thing too because my experience with MOTU's technical support left me never wanting to even consider another MOTU piece of equipment again. Thats too bad too, because some of their stuff is pretty darned functional:)
 
studiomaster said:
RAK, did you ever have problems with your 828mkII on PC?


The only problem I ever had was getting the Talkback function to work properly, I kept getting that error message "Audio Stream Not Locked" or something to that effect, I don't remember exactly what it said. The problem was finally solved after a couple driver update releases from MOTU.

To be honest I don't have any complaints with MOTU tech support. I've mainly dealt with them through e-mail, and while they may not be the fastest to respond (I don't have a lot to compare to), they usually answered my questions.

When I got an iBook and wanted to use AudioDesk, but had thrown out the manual, they sent me a new unlock code very speedily.
 
So I've been eyeing a Firepod for a while now and I was very close to making the purchase...then I saw this post and started researching the 8pre...now I'm not entirely sure what to do. Do I sacrifice the extra output options for the (apparently) better quality of the MOTU? (I don't currently have any use for the ADAT connections...but could in the future).
 
Mattman84 said:
So I've been eyeing a Firepod for a while now and I was very close to making the purchase...then I saw this post and started researching the 8pre...now I'm not entirely sure what to do. Do I sacrifice the extra output options for the (apparently) better quality of the MOTU? (I don't currently have any use for the ADAT connections...but could in the future).

I'm not at all familiar with the Firepod, but the CueMix console that comes with the MOTU devices can't be beat. I also like that you can use it as a stand alone mixer, without the computer.
 
dgatwood said:
Don't know. The last time I used Windows was in a mandatory "Computer Literacy" class in High School.

I completed the hour's work in 5-10 minutes on average, then spent the rest of the hour writing a movie script. The lab had exactly one game, written in GW Basic. Let's just say I tweaked a bit of the projectile trajectory math before the school year was over. :D

Oh, and if your teacher ever tells you "You can't possibly get up to 20 WPM typing with two fingers," just know that if you're a pianist who can memorize the content easily and already knows how to touch type, converting to using two fingers doesn't make much difference in speed. 65 WPM down from eighty-something. Just to annoy the teacher.

What a waste. That's 180 hours of my life I'll never get back.

ah so you were THAT kid
:)
 
RAK... I actually had MOTU at one point want me to ship them my whole tower, at my expense, to see what was wrong. I was going to have to pay shipping both ways and they told me I should have it back in 8 to 12 weeks. To me, this is ludicrous, and I was appaled that they even considered pushing that as an option.
 
RAK said:
The first DAW I ever experienced was DP3, and I have an 828mkII which I love (on a PC). I'm a big MOTU fan as well. My only regret is that the Traveler wasn't out when I bought my rig. The 8Pre looks very cool.
What's your opinion about only having the 1 pair of analog line outputs though? I know you also have the headphone out, but the only thing that seemed missing to me was a second pair of analong line outs, for a cuemix or something like that.

I have two of the things, so if I ever really needed two line outs, I'd keep the one interface set to sync off the other one and just add a second FireWire cable between the two. Presto, instant extra outputs. :)

That said, all I've ever used is one set of outputs. I don't usually even send a separate signal to my monitors and headphones. I have a "kill box" for when the mic goes live. :)
 
Actually, I have had good dealings with plenty of companies, and not so good with some others. I never thought I would find a company worse than Alesis though until I needed MOTU:(
 
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