More Odesa! Recorded some vocals, jam on this...

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Ok, stupid MP3 turned all my high end into garbage can lids again... thats my one and only initial gripe, may as well get it out of the way.
Anyway, this is another song from that band Odesa that I have been working with, and this one has some vocals on it! And it ROCKS! I love this song...
THIS IS NOT MY BAND... as many people thought last time. I just record them.

www.nowhereradio.com/jammy is the address

AS usual, I'm going into my usual spill about it all....
Ok, all the recording was done at the same time as the last one, so you can see the other post here about what was used on drums (keyword: Odesa) and guitars (in the bathtub!) and whatever.... except vocals, which we did this week at the singers living room, using MrZekemans newly aquired TLM-103 into an RNP, straght in, no compression, etc...
When I got it home and went to rough mix it, I realized that when we recorded all the takes, that we didnt do a guitar double, and it sounded too thin. Being that its an easy song, I sat down and learned it real quick, used some alternate chords in the same key, and recorded a guitar double. My part is hard right, the actual guitarist of the band is hard left. Really fattened it up nicely. I miced up my Mesa Rectifier with a Sennheiser e609 --> RNP --> straight into Sonar. It was miced right in the voice coil. I EQ'd a little bit of high end into it when I rough mixed it, and highpassed it at about 160hz. MP3 conversion did the sound no favors for sure.
The bass is RNP dirtied up real bad with,and squashed through, Vintage Warmer, real hard. The vocals also have vintage warmer on them, at about 4 on the drive knob.
THe heavily distorted vocals in the middle and towards the end are done with Revalver, and I think it was perfect for the effect.
The backwards fade at the beginning was handmade, but needs lined up a tad better.
This is a pretty rough mix, no verb on anything, but I think it jams raw, and I think it jams period. This one has really grown on me. I like these guys a LOT. More to come soon, as I now have vocals on 5 songs.
Tell me what you think of this tune.
 
Sorry, the song is called Devils Water...
I have no idea how to access the other Odesa page where I had the song Rise (with no vocals) as I forgot all my info.
It can be heard at nowhereradio.com/odesa I'll be posting the vocal version of that in a few days, if anyone wants to hear it.
For a yellin screamin dude, I like it. Reminds me of Black Sabbath meets Lynard Skynard running a train on Henry Rollins.
 
the weak point is the singer, wich seems to have a small range and to have problems hitting the right tune

but man, the song roxxx - that's a fact!

cheers
 
Yeah, his range is pretty slim, and I thik he's gone deaf to where he cant hit notes very well. It does jam though. Did you like that distorted vocal stuff I did at the end?
He is the singer from a band that used to tour worldwide with Biohazard, Slayer, etc they were signed to a lable I cant rem right now. It was My Own Victim, he split with them a few years back though. His picture album is killer though, he's played in Germany, France, Sweden, all over. Pretty cool.
I'll have another one to put up later that jams too.
The mix seem allright?
 
Decent recording.....crappy song.

Inane and out of key.

It kind of gets funny at the end though.;)
 
there's some weird stuff going on between the bass and the drums...some kind of tapping sound... sounds loose.

This isn't bad for a ruff mix, but I am not finding the enthusiasm in it that you have. The gtrs really dominate everything very much, and therefore really belts out the frequency areas of that instrument. No [semi-]extreme low or high end really heard on my system. Actually, this sounds like a high school band playing homemade early black sabbath stuff.

The gtrs sound more direct in buzzy, than a nice full blown stack to me. The solo is kinda... ah...simplistic.

The vocals do cut thru the mix nicely. I would suspect a waveform of this would look pretty close to a rectangle. I wouldn't think a decently encoded MP3 would really degrade this style of mix all that much, but I'll take your word for it.

sorry about being so negative, but your previous stuff I've heard seemed to be leagues above this.
 
Well, I wouldnt call it a great/perfect recording by any means, but it was certainly meant to be a rough sounding recording done in a rough environment with the idea of it sounding, well, rough. Thats what they asked for, and it kind of fits the music.
I think the sound is thick and hefty, though, I like it. I added a lot of harmonic content (distortion) on almost everything, especially the bass.. the vocals have some Vintage Warmer drive in varying degrees on them, as does the bass, the drums, almost everything. On this stuff, the first thing I did was open a vintage warmer on almost every track :) Fuck it. I like the sound myself, it kind of reminds of an old tape or something.
I think I am most surely partial, as having listened to this song now 1,000 times it has really grown on me the way it is. I hated it at first, and the initial mix was thinner than a JOB rolling paper. It wasnt until I learned the guitars parts and double tracked it myself that it started to thicken up.
You know, I've been kind of surprised at how the vocas came through in this mix though, ususally they dont stand out that well just by doing nothing, which is exactly what I did.
I think if we recorded it in a good room and took our time, that I wouldnt like it as much. Weird, huh? Just used to it sounding the way it does now. I think thats known as losing your subjectiveness, and I probably have.
I'm also buzzing quite hard and I have no idea what I've been typing about or for how long, I'll stop now.
Peace.
 
Its still there, you gotta go to discography then to singles....
 
Strongas hell, although it seemed a bit mid heavy with the guitar backing. bass and kick were ok, I like a little punchier with more of a wood batter on the kick. The conga or small toms thing got a little out of the scheme for bit, actually sort of appeared in the scene a bit strangely, after a bit they evened out. Vocals were good. I`d like em more cutting at that bridge part. Rockin tune.
 
tubedude said:
Well, I wouldnt call it a great/perfect recording by any means, but it was certainly meant to be a rough sounding recording done in a rough environment with the idea of it sounding, well, rough. Thats what they asked for, and it kind of fits the music.
I think the sound is thick and hefty, though, I like it. I added a lot of harmonic content (distortion) on almost everything, especially the bass.. the vocals have some Vintage Warmer drive in varying degrees on them, as does the bass, the drums, almost everything. On this stuff, the first thing I did was open a vintage warmer on almost every track :) Fuck it. I like the sound myself, it kind of reminds of an old tape or something.
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I think you hit the nail on the head reocording-wise if rough is what you were going for.. Almost sounds like it was done on an old TEAC or Fostex 1/2" 8-track. You could always add some tape hiss to make it more authentic.:D

There are some intonation issues happening which, while cool in this context, stick out a bit too much IMHO.
 
Well, I guess I'll just have to take a beating over this one. I like the way it turned out, and if you could see what I had to work with and how it started out, you would be surprised.
There are numerous mess ups on behalf of every musician all thorugh it, but I still think it jams.
It serves its purpose I guess.
Now MY stuff, on the other hand, is going to sound much different.
If I ever get it done, that is.
 
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