More double pedal stuff, and others...

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Hello, im new to these boards, my name is curtis and i have some questions.
Right now i use an Iron cobra double pedal that ive had for a few years, ive heard that some pedals out now are a big step abovemy pedal which is from about 98 i think.
Namely the AXIS A pedal and DW 9000, can anyone say which one of these is faster or easier to keep consistent? Which one will tire me out less? Im drawn towards the AXIS for the longboard, i cant really do heel toes on my Cobra, my shoe size is 10, should i be able to do heel toes on a regular pedal with that size? Im finding it nearly impossible to go any faster than i can go just using my toes.
I also would like to change it from a double pedal to 2 singles.

In addition ide like to ask about the differences between Birch and Maple?
Im wanting to get some new spaun drums, this would be my first real good set and i dont know shit about the difference between maple and birch, ide like to pay less but im told maple is waaay better.
Can anyone give me a good description of the sounds?

Thanks to anyone who read all of this and replied in advance.
 
Wood type is all personal preference. Birch and Maple are usually the 2 top choices, depending on what kind of sound you're looking for. Birch is a harder wood, so it's going to give you more attack. It is also a tad higher pitched. Maple is softer, so you're going to get a nice warm tone with that. If you're playing normal types of music (rock, punk, etc), then go with maple, but if you want to get into the exotic sort of drumming (i.e. Danny Carey(Tool)), then you can check out birch.

Also, I've got the power glide iron cobra, and I can do heel-toe hits just fine(and I'm a size 12!). Perhaps you should just keep practicing, but if you are looking for something more expandable, then the Axis is pretty much in a category by itself. Of course, this category also comes with the ~$400 price tag, but from what I've heard they are extremely nice. I'm happy with my iron cobra.
 
Have you tried the AXIS? Cause heel toes arent the only reason i want it, i also would like my feet to be going as fast as possible, and as consistently as possible, i can do alright on my Iron cobra but it gets boring when your feet stop imroving as much as they use to.
But thanks for your help im definately going to practice heel toes more, after all i only found out about the heel toe technique a couple months ago, which is probably kind of bad for an 8 year drummer, oh well.
 
How does this heel-toe technique work exactly? I've heard of it before, and tried it out, but I must be doing something wrong because it didn't work right at all. When I place my foot all the way up my drum pedal until my toes hit the chain, my heel just barely reaches past the hinge at the bass of the pedal. I don't understand then how I'm suposed to hit the pedal with my heel? Do I hold my foot sideways or something? Am I doing this completely wrong? Could somebody explain this method in some detail? Thanks.
 
Sounds like what ive been trying, i take off the toe stop off and do it barefooted, i get more room that way, but my heel is still just past the hinge, ide like to know how anyone does it with a size 12.
 
ive used both the dw 9000 and the axis.

the axis is the faster of the two, but not by much.

the axis can only generate 3/4 of the velocity power that the DW does though.

i finaly stuck with the 9000 for the power reason.
 
noiseportrait said:
How does this heel-toe technique work exactly? I've heard of it before, and tried it out, but I must be doing something wrong because it didn't work right at all. When I place my foot all the way up my drum pedal until my toes hit the chain, my heel just barely reaches past the hinge at the bass of the pedal. I don't understand then how I'm suposed to hit the pedal with my heel? Do I hold my foot sideways or something? Am I doing this completely wrong? Could somebody explain this method in some detail? Thanks.
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you press your heel down into the rear region of the pedal, making one strike.
then roll your ankle forward so the ball of your foot does the next strike.
the beater should have a slight rebound between heel and toe.

if your feet are long youll need a long pedal board to do it.
im a size ten so its not too tough on a dw 9000.
its a useful trick for when i need b.d. doubles and im doing hi hat work.
but its a bit uneven though.
theres no way you can get the same velocity from you heel that you would with you toe.
 
Thank you finster thats pretty much exactly what i wanted to know.
 
I've never bothered with the heel to toe method on the kicks, I've found it much easier to achieve doubles and triplets with toe only by sliding my toes up the pedals. Of course this all plays in with spring tension, head rebound and control of my ankles .... not to mention 22 years of playing, but it works well for me.
I do, however, use my heel on occasion in hi-hat use. I'll tap out the backing pedaled hat ride with my toes and use my heel for off beat or accented partial open hat hits that then get choked from the tapped ride pattern. This leaves my hands free to do other things around the kit, but using my heel in that manner on the hats somewhat gives the effect of them being struck with a stick and choked from the pedal.
 
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