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i am planning to start a small home studio in a spare room in my house and i have decided to get a delta 44 soundcard for my pc.
I want to be able to use all the four inputs simultaneously meaning i need to be able to record with different configurations:
4 condensor mic's
4 condensor or dynamic mics
3 condensor mics and di a bass
1 condensor 2 guitars 1 bass

i was looking at getting either or these setups:
4 x Behringer tube Ultragain Mic200 (£140 +vat)
2x Behringer ultragain Pro Mic220 (£130 +vat)
A 4 output mixer using built in preamps( upto £150 plus vat)

i am just wondering which wuld be the best solution, as i do not think i need the mixer capabilities (i dont mind mixing on my pc).
I will be recording acoustic demos at first but may move onto doing full demos (recording drums :eek: )
thanks :)
 
You can't plug the microphones directly into the soundcard without SOME kind of preamping, so you are correct that you need some kind of mixer. This would be my choice, because as well as having six mic preamps it has the proper direct out capability.

The Behringer setups are fine, but if you get software that allows you to group tracks easily like Tracktion you'll almost certainly get used to real faders instead of onscreen level controls for mixdown. There are four outputs in addition to the four inputs on the Delta 44 card...
 
im using cubase sx2 which i bought off a friend. how would the mic preamps in the mixer compare to the seperate behringer ones? (im trying to get the best out my very small budget)
thanks for the reply btw :)
 
also would i be able to plug an electric guitar or a bass directly into the mixer soi can record them directly (without fx pedal or amp)
 
how would the mic preamps in the mixer compare to the seperate behringer ones?
In my opinion, Yamaha makes better gear than Behringer. The mic preamps in the mixer will serve you well for years to come. If you want to invest your small budget wisely get the mixer.
also would i be able to plug an electric guitar or a bass directly into the mixer soi can record them directly
No. But you will have a tremendous advantage while tracking drums in that you can combine multiple microphones to be recorded on the four busses provided in the mixer. One bus for the kick, one for the snare and the rest of the tom mics, hihat mic and overheads on the remaining two. And that's just one easy example. If you go with the 'four inputs' setup that the separate Behringer units would give you would be severely handicapping everything but tracking.
 
the MG is the only mixer i've ever owned, but i've worked with quite a few similar mixers in that price range, and i think it's quite a lot better.

i've never owned a piece of behringer kit, but the general feel from the people on this board is that i don't want to :D :p .

i guess what i'm saying is, i don't know what i'm talking about, but listen to me :p

hehehe.

Andy
 
okay... i think ill listen :)
now all ive got to do is convince my parents to set up a recording studio in the house :eek:
 
i was looking and what cables do i need to connect the mixer to the soundcard?
 
Use regular ol' unbalanced guitar cables. They probably don't need to be any more than just a few feet long if you have your mixer and your computer set in close proximity to each other...
 
okay, thanks very much :)
one more little thought.... has anyone found getting cables off ebay to be a better alternative to online shops?
 
Cables are cheap. If you buy from Ebay or buy from and online store it's not going to make much difference...
 
okay ive been loking at the mixers manual..... and im not sure but basically you cant have 4 seperate channels out (theres 2 channel sub and 2 channel main which seem not to be completely seperate) and as i will need to use all four inputs seperately do i need a bigger mixer? :confused:

sorry for asking soo many questions
 
if you have an insert on each channel of the mixer, you can route from there to the input on the delta44. That way you won't use the mains or the bussing on the mixer at all.
 
guitarboi89 said:
okay ive been loking at the mixers manual..... and im not sure but basically you cant have 4 seperate channels out (theres 2 channel sub and 2 channel main which seem not to be completely seperate) and as i will need to use all four inputs seperately do i need a bigger mixer?
12/4 means there are 12 separate channels that feed 4 separate busses. The busses are independent - you can use them as two pairs of stereo outs or, in conjunction with the channel pans, as four mono outs. Or as a stereo pair and two mono outs. The key is that little button above the gray fader that says 'to stereo' or words to that effect. With that NOT pressed you have a four output mixer.
 
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