Monitors... Which ones?

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Hi there!

I'm finally going to buy me some monitors, in a month or so, and I need some advice, since I won't be able to hear them before I buy...

So far, I'm considering these options:

- Tannoy Reveal Actives - 277 Euros (does anybody know what 'stuckpreis' means?)
- Yorkville YSM1p - ??? Euros (does anybody know how can I buy them in europe, Portugal specifically?)
- M-Audio Studiophile BX5 - 444 Euros
- Yamaha MSP5 - 245 Euros (each piece)

Well, let me know what think...

Thanks in advance,
Pedro
 
Personally I am a Yamaha fan. I have been using them for over a year and I am very satisfied...
 
does anybody know what 'stuckpreis' means?)
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I think it means "stucco price", in otherwords a static price that cannot be bargained up or down, basically you pay what you see.

Yorkville YSM1p - ??? Euros (does anybody know how can I buy them in europe, Portugal specifically?)
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Not sure how much in portugal specifically but it should be more or less the same amount of euros anywhere. Would be close to 260 each.

Would these be for monitoring or just enjoying?

In either case I'd suggest the YSM1p, even more so for plain 'enjoying', they tend to lean away from the rest of the other monitors if you want some good laid back, enjoyable sound. Deep tight bass(you would never guess the port was there), soft transparent highs, strong mids, very defined timbre, I couldn't ask for more. The only thing that bugs me is the occasional back panel resonance which has been mentioned before, but it is uncommon and really a small price to pay.

My next fav would be the Reveals, they're light on the bass, mainly due to a sealed 6.5" design but they work nicely in other aspects. They tend to bottom out easily however, the excursion on the woofer seems very constrained.

BTW, I sure hope those 444 Euros are for a pair of BX5s, not per unit.
 
the active reveals are normally more than the yorkvilles i think. Honestly if you can't get the Yorkvilles i'd say check out the reveals. Especialy if they are cheaper.
 
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since I won't be able to hear them before I buy...
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Yikes! You will regret that. How can you make an honest decision on what speakers you like just be the looks or reviews?? I know this is a discussion beat to death, but peoples taste and ears differ greatly!

So far, I'm considering these options:

- Tannoy Reveal Actives - 277 Euros (does anybody know what 'stuckpreis' means?)
- Yorkville YSM1p - ??? Euros (does anybody know how can I buy them in europe, Portugal specifically?)
- M-Audio Studiophile BX5 - 444 Euros
- Yamaha MSP5 - 245 Euros (each piece)

Well, let me know what think...

Thanks in advance,
Pedro
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'stuckpreis'= price per piece, so double that up for your pair.
I haven't seen Yorkvilles in Europe yet, if you do find some, lemme know, I know of at least a dozen guys that seem to want them, just by the reviews (crazy..)

Try to find out what makes each monitor specific: Yamaha has it's own sound, the reveals have their own sound, the M-Audio's are made to please any entry level enthousiast (not meant in any negative way).

Plz *TRY* to have a listen to some different brands before you buy, you'll benefit a great deal from it in the long run.

(btw: thomann.de, musicstorekoeln.de are just two very cheap warehouses in Germany with some of the best prices you can find in the EU)



Herwig
 
bartok.waters said:
- Tannoy Reveal Actives - 277 Euros (does anybody know what 'stuckpreis' means?)
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It does indeed mean "Per piece", that is 554 eur per pair. That is simple an amazing price, I bought mine for 800 euros two years ago, and THAT was cheap. ;)

Get em. You won't be sorry.
 
From your list, Yorkville or Tannoy, but I would also throw out the Studiophile BX8's, which is what I just purchased over the Yorkie's...

The BX5's are too small, and sound literally like jam box plastic cased speakers in my opinion.

Best of luck to you!
 
Hey!

Thank you for posting!

It seems (and from what I've seem in other threads) that the ysm1p and the reveals are the favourites in this price range...

Now I just have to find the yorkvilles for sale....

btw (keep in mind, this is just for curiosity's sake) will any of these monitors shake the walls? without shaking themselves all over, of course....

Please keep on posting,
Pedro
 
Shaking walls tend to come from bass. And the 6.5 inch drivers in these units will definatly not do that.

i think you might have to step up to something like a Mackie HR824 or Blue Sky system one, or KRK V8 or something with an 8 inch driver, or sub to produce significant bass.

M audio bx 8 or something like that has an 8 inch driver and they're cheaper, but i don't know how the quality is for monitoring compared to the Yorkville or Tannoy speaker.

You can always add a sub in the future. A good set of yorkvilles or tannoys will do well for accurate mixing, and a yorkville or tannoy sub added in the future would match nicely and shake your walls.
 
You don't need to shake the walls to mix anyway. I have the Yorkies, but haven't used them too much since I've been rebuilding my garage room. I have them stored right now, but it won't be long. When ever I need to shake the walls, I just take a line out from the mixer and plug it into my Peavey bass amp with Cerwin Vega 18" cabinet turning it into a sub woofer. I can hear that bass about a block away. Any kind of amp (guitar or otherwise) and a large enough woofer will work for this.
 
Re: Re: Monitors... Which ones?

"'stuckpreis'= price per piece, so double that up for your pair.
are just two very cheap warehouses in Germany with some of the best prices you can find in the EU)" by DeadPoet (how do ya work that quote thing?!

Ha, I got caught with that already! I buy most of my stuff from Thomann. They're brilliant, way cheaper in most cases than the local retailers. Anyhow, Ireland is an awfully expensive place to buy studio gear. I ordered Mackie Hr624s thinking (in my ignorance) that I was getting two for something like €700. Wrong!

I ended up getting Behringer Truths. Around €500 from Thomann. I'm happy enough with them. They took ages to get used to though. When once you're aware of the weighty puch of the bass and the kinda splashy high end you'll be okay! With cheaper speakers its a good idea to listen to loads of your favourite music (pref the same genre you're recording) before you engage in any serious mixing. Its important to know your equipment (and its faults)

Best of luck with it all.
 
hum...

Hey!...

I checked out the Studiophiles BX8 and since they're only 40 euros more than the tannoys, I tought I should consider them as viable option...

So, has anyone compared the BX8 to the tannoy's or the yorks?

I haven't found the yorks for sale yet... I sent an e-mail to yorkville, but they haven't replied yet... I'll let you know as soon as I get an answer... (assuming that I'll ever get an answer...)

Plz keep on posting...

Pedro
 
I haven't heard them but having some indirect experience with M-Audio monitors I'm confident to say that both the tannoys and yorks will perform better.
 
shaking the walls...

oh... I forgot....

By "shake the walls" I meant decent volume, i.e. will those monitors handle louder volumes without shaking themselves all over the place?

I know that's of no use in mixing... just in case I want to give my neighbors some bluesy brit rock taste in the morning...

BTW: Do you think I could use them as stage monitors at a club?

(plz, don't laugh... I know that studio monitors aren't supposed to be stage monitors, just wondering...)

Pedro
 
Music Shop West

another great shop over there is Music Shop West
the link is http://musicshopwest.de
they are English and most of there prices are better than
Thomann, they can get his hands on most thing so
if your looking for something just send them a mail.
nothing but great service so far,
and they understand my mails, what more can you whant.
 
Hey, Pedro. One more time... you've got to get out there, somewhere, and listen to some of these before deciding. As much as with mics, maybe more, people's opinions about monitors are all over the map. Very subjective. The initial reviews I read and recommendations I received didn't match well with what I actually heard when I got to a store. Your ears won't lie if you listen carefully to some sample pro CDs. If you can't get to a store, buy a few models and compare them at home, then send the others back.

BTW, I needed some budget monitors for a new home studio and bought three popular models myself--after testing, I settled on the M-Audio BX5s (and I'm a rather picky studio guitarist with 30 years recording). The BX5s (and probably BX8s) do a great job in the budget range--we'll only get so much for so little money--and their "adaptable EQ" adjustments were just the ticket in integrating them into my quirky little studio. The bottom line: my mixes are sounding great on a variety of home stereos.

Best,

J.
 
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