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Is there someone here who lives with his songwriting skills without always eating Kraft Dinner?

If so, I want to know how, who to talk to and where to send things.

Please, I don't wanna be a office worker anymore... Even for one more week!
 
Cyberdude

Please elaborate. You lost me around the Kraft cheese.
 
I think he meant lives "off" there songwriting skills, not lives "with"...but the cheese part lost me :D
 
Sorry guys, I'm french!

I mean : does someone in this bbs actually lives with the money he makes by selling his songs, without being forced to eat Kraft Dinner each day.
 
Don't quit your day job

If you are going to live off your songwriting, you better go to the store and buy some Ramen soup noodles 8 for $1.00 at your local grocery. You better find a corner of a street and a cap without holes for donations. Do you have access to any cardboard boxes?

Seriously, I live like Bruce Wayne. I hold a fairly decent job during the day. In the night, I do my real work: play live gigs, write, and record. I'm sure all these homerecording gurus have some better explanations.

It all depends how far you are in your career. I have a home and I am not going anywhere else anytime soon. I am building my career around my family and job. If you are not tied down with committments then you can get around and roll the dice with your career.
 
if you look like britany you may have a chance.if not see the above post.
don't give up.change jobs.keep writing.
 
Cyberdude said:
Sorry guys, I'm french!

I mean : does someone in this bbs actually lives with the money he makes by selling his songs, without being forced to eat Kraft Dinner each day.

Hey cyberdude, don't get discouraged, keep on writing. Marty Joe made a good point, if you don't have a lot of commitments (wife, kids, whatever) move around. Go to bigger cities where music entertainment is hot. Pray, place ads, get your own web-site, attend music & songwriting functions, check out taxi.com, believe you can do it, and know your %'s so you don't get robbed. I don't know your entire situation, maybe your doing some of the things I mentioned if so keep going. That is some of the things that's keeping me going. It's never over until we stop.

Cheers, man "you'll make it happen"
 
Yeah...but you basically have to sacrifice nearly everything else in your life...at least till you start having a reasonable amount of success. If you can imagine yourself doing aything else besides music and songwriting, you should do it. But if you're like me, and not much else matters to you, then go for it. Take the time to "study" the songs that you love, as well as "hit" songs. Learn the things that makes these songs great. Incorporate them into your songwriting. Then take your best 5 songs, record them as good as humanly possible, copyrite them, and then send 'em to anyone who will listen...as well as people who might not. It takes, time, talent, effort, money, perseverance, luck, willpower, and ambition to make it...
Best of luck,
Andy
 
hey, come on! you make it sound like the end of the world. it ISN'T a sacrifice. it's a choice. a lifestyle. you CAN still write music and have a 9-5 job & therefore have money...if you want to! If you don't want these things, then what is being sacrificed?

(This next bit is pretty harsh)

A new concept is emerging in SA now where bands/songwriters are not supported at all if they are not good. NOTE: the support offered is not monetary etc., but more basic. Management, marketing assistance, gig oppurtunites, etc. are being refused to unsigned artists if they are not MUSICALLY talented (the companies are indie non-profit organisations). I think it is a good idea. They are discouraging people who really shouldn't be in the industry from the very beginning. Let's face it. Some songwriters/bands are really bad.

This should probably be a new thread, but hey. I was thinking about just how many people are trying to do this and 'make it big'. Probably far too many.

cheers
 
Yeah, that's all fine and great, but the original poster is inquiring about "making a living" by writing songs....not by working 9-5 at a day job and then writing songs as a "hobby"....BIG DIFFERENCE !!! Making a "living" at it certainly DOES require sacrifice, practice, luck, and all the things that i've mentioned. There's certainly nothing wrong with working a regular job, and writing songs....lots of people do it...but they generally aren't making any moey from their songwriting.
Andy
 
Along the same vein as what 1176 was saying...

One could also make the argument that there is a different "artistic motivation" if one's next meal is strictly dependent on their ability to come up with "another hit" vs. someone who "will get around to" writing "another hit" on the weekend when they aren't so busy at work!!!!!

Bruce
 
National Sandwic, who in SA decides who is talented and who is not?
 
SA

there are several musical promo companies which tend to be non-profit and specifically concerned with indie bands. they decide. they have influence at festivals, with radio, and with rec. companies.

it sounds terrible, but it isn't chronic at this stage... I just like the idea of weeding out the rubbish when they're small.

it may sound completely unfair, but bear in mind: SA is small, and there are NOT that many bands. bands that have any kind of original sound are generally supported. but we are PLAGUED by (early)pearl jam/creed ripoffs and old school metal megadeath ripoffs and korn ripoffs. if you go to a gig, all you are likely to see is imitation. it is not in a good state at all.

in reply to other posts here, I understand that you can't "make a living" while you have a 9-5 job, kind of contradictory. the point I am trying to make is this: if I have to eat crap food instead of great food in order to do what I love, then I don't consider it as a sacrifice... it's part of the deal. that is just the way I see it. I don't mind being on the breadline while making music.

cheers
national sandwich
 
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