Modelers In Live Settings

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All the time. I run the pod into a power amp and that into a 4x12. It works just like any other amp.

I've seen people use it without a poweramp/cab. They just relied on the monitors to hear themselves. Around here, that's a dangerous assumption. (most places don't have enough monitors for vocals, let alone vox and guitar)

If you have problems with feedback, that is you or your guitar. You need to fix the problem just like if you were using a real amp.
 
I assumed he meant

how do you GET feedback if you're not using an amp.

I'm assuming you're talking about running the POD through a PA, not through a power amp, otherwise you wouldn't be asking those questions, right?

I would think that if the PA provides you with traditional stage monitors, that could be added to the mix. If not, you could take a direct out off the board and run it through a small amp (like your Line6) just for yourself, but then maybe lugging the amp around is what your trying to avoid by going with the POD.

You could use those vicegrips you call headphones to monitor, but then we can't have you lookin' dorky with your head turning blue in front of the congregation now, can we?

I guess it all boils down to what the monitor situation is on your PA.

Just break down and buy the Marshall stack and leave it at church. :rolleyes:
 
notCardio said:
how do you GET feedback if you're not using an amp.
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Yeah. The cab/power amp makes sense.

notCardio said:
I'm assuming you're talking about running the POD through a PA, not through a power amp, otherwise you wouldn't be asking those questions, right?

I would think that if the PA provides you with traditional stage monitors, that could be added to the mix. If not, you could take a direct out off the board and run it through a small amp (like your Line6) just for yourself, but then maybe lugging the amp around is what your trying to avoid by going with the POD.

You could use those vicegrips you call headphones to monitor, but then we can't have you lookin' dorky with your head turning blue in front of the congregation now, can we?

I guess it all boils down to what the monitor situation is on your PA.

Just break down and buy the Marshall stack and leave it at church. :rolleyes:
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I don't play at church. I was just wondering how people who uses Pods, V-Amps, and ToneLabs, etc., live.
 
If your band has in-ear monitors, none of this is a problem.
 
apl said:
Yeah. The cab/power amp makes sense.



I don't play at church. I was just wondering how people who uses Pods, V-Amps, and ToneLabs, etc., live.
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Oh, they've heard you sing, then. :p
 
Farview said:
If your band has in-ear monitors, none of this is a problem.
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How would you get guitar feedback if you wanted to cover I Feel Fine?
 
apl said:
How would you get guitar feedback if you wanted to cover I Feel Fine?
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You would need an e-bow. You would also have problems getting controlable feedback out of floor wedge-type monitors. Feedback has a lot to do with the tone you are getting- the soundguy has 100 ways to louse that up and about 2 ways to make it happen. You are better off with a power amp/ speaker. I've never tried it, but a keyboard amp might work in this instance.
 
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Anybody using a PODxt Live in a live setting? What do you do for monitoring and feedback?
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If there is another guitar player in the group, and he uses a mic'ed amp, then my advice is not to go with just the POD into the PA. I tried that, and no matter what I did with modeling, distortion, etc., my sound was thin and lifeless compared with the other guy's mic'ed Twin. I had fond visions of driving to the gig in my MG with just my guitar and gig bag, but alas, it didn't work out.
 
I don't have a band and I rarely play with others. The modeler concept has obvious huge upside for recording, but equally obvious drawbacks for live use. The PODxt Live and now the VOX Tonelab SE are being marketed as straight to the PA no amp needed solutions. It seems that it's not quite as simple as that. A powered floor monitor might work, too.
 
It gets confusing. If you are using a power amp and guitar cabinet, you would need to feed the FOH a signal with speaker simulation while sending your cabinet signal without speaker sim. Powered monitor or keyboard amp, both signals need speaker sim.
 
I think part of the idea of a modeler live is not so much that no amp is needed, as it is to be able to get the different amp sims without the different amps AND have all the presets saved. You can go from the tweed Billy Gibbons setting to the Twin Steve Cropper setting to the AC30 Brian May setting to the Mesa Santana setting to the Marshall Jimmy Page setting without having to have 5 different amps or having to do a bunch of fiddling and tweeking between songs. I'm sure it's a great thing for a cover band to have.
 
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Farview said:
It gets confusing. If you are using a power amp and guitar cabinet, you would need to feed the FOH a signal with speaker simulation while sending your cabinet signal without speaker sim. Powered monitor or keyboard amp, both signals need speaker sim.
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If you use the speaker simulator on a cab will the irony blow the speaker?
 
TexRoadkill said:
If you use the speaker simulator on a cab will the irony blow the speaker?
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HAHAHA!

No, it will just make you want to turn up the high end to get some clarity out of your cabinet. That high end will tear your face off at the FOH.
 
I have thought about doing this before, and I always figured I would buy a medium size keyboard amp (maybe 60 watts?) to use more or less as my own monitor. Even with this route you want speaker simulation ON, since the keyboard amp is a full range speaker, basically a P.A - not a guitar cab.

I have never tried it, but I am convinced it would work.
:D
 
Has anyone noticed that real musicians use real amps...
and only modeling musicians use modeling amps?
 
Thanks!

He said we look like models!

Don't hate me because I'm virtually beatiful.
 
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