Mixdown Sound Quality

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I have noticed that when I am playing my mixdowns from the "bounce" inside the Multi-Track Session, that the song is crystal clear......Then when I Export the bounce and try to play it again, the quality is gone....It sounds muffled and doesn't sound clear at all......When you Export the audio there is a drop box where you can change the frequency and whatnot, but after trying several combo's, I still can't get it to play clear....anybody else experience this before?
 
It's your KBPS...the higher your kilo bites per second...the better the quality...i wouldn't save it anything lower then 192...but i got alot of memory on my computer and i save my stuff at 224...anything lower then 192 will basicly give you a lower quality then how it sounds on the multi view...so i would say 192 is standard...but save at 224 if you can...when you hit export...check the options that the screen brings up...also make sure it's at 44.1 and not nothing lower...
 
Mixdown Clearity

I attached a screen shot to this reply/post......Is this high enough you think?






I was using the Pro-VBR rate for my mixdowns though
 
tak it to 224...no need to go that high...224 a be good enough...keep in mind that the more kbps the bigger the file...go to 224...most do 192 anyway...
 
T.O.I.Y.Z. said:
I have noticed that when I am playing my mixdowns from the "bounce" inside the Multi-Track Session, that the song is crystal clear......Then when I Export the bounce and try to play it again, the quality is gone....It sounds muffled and doesn't sound clear at all......When you Export the audio there is a drop box where you can change the frequency and whatnot, but after trying several combo's, I still can't get it to play clear....anybody else experience this before?
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Hi...is there are reason why you're mixing/bouncing to an MP3 sound format???:confused:
Do you create your own music, as an artist?.....or just playing with sounds 'n shit?

I'd hate to think that your using MP3's for anything else other than Soundclick for uploading your music!:eek::)

ah shit...maybe I'm just misunderstanding this whole faaaaarking thing!..lol.

Do you have any stuff that I can listen to bro?

Cheers.
 
Waves

So here is the question.....This may have been asked before.....Which wav format is the best to select in CEP/Adobe when you are saving Mix downs or exporting Audio from the song sessions?.....I noticed several types in the drop box and was curious as to which one is the recommended/best to use.
 
I had to search for the answer, but here's what I do (both of my computers with AA/CEP loaded on have been set loooooooonnnnnng ago to a single file type).

I finally discovered that I save as Windows PCM (*wav). One reason I do so is for maximum compatibility (as I understand it) between softwares. Another reason is that they are uncompressed, and I'm a firm believer in recording and saving everything with no data compression. If you must generate an mp3, do that at the end of the process, after you've saved the .wav version.

Other people think you can lose data without losing the impact of the music, but in my opinion, using mp3 compression is the equivalent of taking pristine uncompressed digital audio and turning it into low-fi cassettes. I have heard people rant about there being no audible difference, but I can sure as hell hear it. Consumers (and some musicians) mistake convenience for quality.

But those crappy-sounding mp3s are not restorable to the original. Storage space keeps going up and up, and it's just one more thing to regularly update. For example, my recording computer started out with 20GB, and over the years has evolved into 40+400 internal drives, with another 500GB or so of external drives.

The day of the mp3 is numbered: before very long there'll be so much storage space everywhere that mp3 compression will be unnecessary. Why do something harmful and irreversible at the beginning?
 
Good look on that....I am assuming once you select the PCM, on the options tab, you're to select the higher/highest bit rate.....Which one though?

Windows PCM
32 Bit Normalized Float (Default)
or the
32 Bit Non-Standard

or do you use another one instead?
 
I always use the 32-bit float ("float" refers to the fact that it's not really 32-bit -- actually 24-bit, if I remember -- but the algorhythms treat it as though it's 32-bit, which gives more detail on reverb tails and other situations where there are low level dynamic changes.

In any case (and I'm not the expert on all this digital jiggery-pokery) you want to preserve the highest resolution up to the point you are ready to burn a CD. The standard, as you probably know, is 44.1KHz sampling rate with 16-bit depth. When my 2-track mis is ready to burn, I convert the mix by pressing F11 to call up the "Convert Sample Type" window and then specifying which processes I want to use and where I want it to finish.

The original tracks (.wav files) I leave at 32-bit to preserve maximum resolution. I occasionally revisit old mixes and I prefer to work with the original. Few things are more aggravating than going back a couple of years later and discovering that you didn't properly save.

Hope this helps.
 
My pleasure.

I just noticed that I typed "mis" in the second line of the second paragraph.

That's not meant to be "mess" but, rather, "mix." :D
 
I would just like to add something.
Never edit your mp3 and save it several times.
Do every single edit while your file is still uncompressed.
Make a mp3-copy only when everything is done.
If you have found out that you need to do some more edits,
load up your original file (WAV/aiff), do your changes and then make another mp3-copy.

Another thing,
It's no need for converting from 32 to 16 bit if Audition
is used for burning to CD-R. It'll be done automatically.
 
File Types

OK here is a another problem.......I just went inside 7 song sessions, and exported a mixdown from each session into a PCM wav.....

They won't play on Windows Media Player or Real Player, and none of my programs including Sonic are recognizing the file type.....So I can't play the wav files or burn them onto a CD

I even went inside an Adobe session and went into the CD burning screen and they wouldn't work in there either......

Is there something I am missing?
 
Are these stereo mixdowns, or the multitrack .ses tracks? If the latter, then they won't play anywhere except in Multitrack View.

Otherwise, you may have installed Windows Media and told it not to play PCM .wav files.

I don't know. I've not had the problem, and in fact I never play back recordings (other than those I've burned to CD) with any other software.
 
They are 32 Bit.....I went to test it out....I opened a new Cool Edit Pro session (new/blank).....Imported an existing song/turned the volume down 5 decibals and then bounced it.....Did "Save Mixdown As", named it and then saved it as a Windows PCM.wav file (32 Bit)....I tried to open it with all my media and mp3 programs and it would not burn or play just like the others...

So something isn't right.....if I do a save as and change the format to mp3, it plays fine on all media players I have on the computer
 
I just came from the computer....I tried exporting a Mixdown in almost every format Adobe lets you Export with....the only ones that worked on all my media players is "mp3RO" and the "wma" formats.....the Mp3RO is the one I had been using up until now
 
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