Mix critique si vous plait

[mattr]

I posted a rough mix of this about a month ago but it was fairly dry and scratchy.

Got a version now which sounds acceptable (to my ears) as a demo/EP type thing (its for a friend's band, will only end up on myspace anyway). Still got a few bits of timing to clear up and a dud note on my melodyning halfway through the chorus .

Danke schön!

EDIT: what do people think about the kick? lost in the mud?

 

[Rokket]

Do they want that rhythm guit on the left channel to sound like it's distant like that? Maybe too much verb on that track. If that's what they were going for, cool... but I guess that's a personal preference of mine.

Yeah, for this genre the kick should 'thwap', and it's kind of lost in the lower ranges.

Sounds good enough for myspace, but for the band, it needs a bit of tweaking.

 

[mattr]

Thanks. The guitars are a bit of a mess. At the moment its...

*Rhythm g. recorded several times with 2 mics, panned hard left/right + delays and phase inversion to widen it.
*Lead recorded with 2 mics and panned just a bit.

Then a guy from the band recorded me two more rhythm tracks and one more lead which I panned...
*1x rhythm panned hard left with reverb running hard right
*1x lead panned as above but the other way
*1x rhythm running through various FX and 'harmonics enhancers' then high-passed and mixed in to give some top-end (got a bit low-mid heavy before).

So it all piles up in a big heap but sounds quite good (IMO) for most of the track. Maybe I should change the panning around for the bit where its just the rhythm? I am yet to get over my 'fear' of using automation; you get lost enough with levels of 36 tracks going into 10 busses into the master, let alone if all of those has level, pan and FX automation envelopes. Its just all scary to think about, lol

Anyone know if/how to sidechain in Vegas? I think the bass is drowning out the kick a bit, even though they have their little space notched out with EQ. If I can I want to try ducking the bass when the kick comes in.

Any other comments?

 

[undrgrnd studio]

he kick definitely needs more punch. I personally would like to hear more of the actual singing in the mix, less in the background during the chorus. I was also thinking that the "wall of sound guitars" detracts a little from the tightness of the music, it swells more than punches you in the face. However, it does work. There are no major problems with timing or pitch or performance, I could see using this as a demo.