Mid-Side Compression

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Does anyone have a before and after clip of some audio that uses MS compression? If you do, could you please post it and explain the nuts and bolts, the how and why of what is going on?

To save some confusion, I don't mean M/S recording.:confused:

What's the social impact of M/S compression?
 
Is this a joke?

I thought this was a Walters thread at first.

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I don't see anything that looks like a joke? He is asking for an example of when someone used M/S compression and why they did it....what's not valid about this?

I seem to remember an article in a recent tape op evaluating a pendulum compressor with this option. You might look for that.
 
No joke. I'd like to hear a sample and understand why it was used. I did put the impact question for walters and anyone else that needed to express themselves socially.:)

Thanks for the links and stuff. I checked out the pendulum compressor. Whew, nice piece.
 
Just give it a try. Compressing your center info separately from your difference info can be a very powerful thing. Gang vocals can appear to "move as if real", without the left or right side jumping way out by itself from time to time

overheads, wow! Just try it

Not always the thing to do, but then again nothing else is either
 
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I'd like to hear a sample and understand why it was used.
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Listen on your own stuff or whatever. I guess I should leave bigger bread crumbs next time :
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I did put the impact question for walters and anyone else that needed to express themselves socially.:)
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Thank you for the opportunity, It's good to be in the same leauge as the great one.:eek:




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A thing or two to keep in mind -

It can sound really nice. For example, a little compression on the center can widen the mix. But like any time you adjust something, you have to really listen for problems you may create. When the center gets attenuated the vocals may get reduced but the reverb on the far left and right may not. Makes it sound liike you're turning the reverb up and down during the tune.

Voxengo Soniformer is a good program for playing with this. It's essentially a multi-band comp / dynamic EQ tool, but you can process the mid or side if you like. There is a free demo.
 
M/S compressing means compressing your MID and SIDES seperately. It is a commonly used mastering technique, as is M/S eqing.

Here is how anyone can do it.

Get the Voxengo M/S plugin.

Copy your stereo mix onto two stereo tracks, each with the M/S plugin inserted "encoder".

Pan one stereo track to the left (with the Voxengo this turns out to be the MIDDLE) and the other to left (this is the sides).

Sum BOTH of the stereo tracks to another stereo track with the Voxengo M/S plug on "decoder".

No you can put a compressor on EACH of the stereo tracks and compress the middle of your mix, and the sides of your mix SEPERATELY. If this wasn't clear enough, let me know.
 
Thank you so much Tom, Steve,Leddy, pipeline and flatfinger. I'll be doing live stuff for the next few weeks and can't make it to the studio but I'm excited about trying this out. :D

Anyone have a before and after sample they could share?
 
Thanks Steve and Gandalf. That is exactly what I was looking for. Steve, awesome sounds!
 
I'm such a noob. I wasn't even aware of MS compression's existence. I'll have to do more research on it. Once again, Tom you're a pimp. As are a lot of other totally awesome dudes on here. I love learning stuff, and I tell ya, the list keeps getting bigger on stuff I want to learn how to do. The quest for a UAD card begins now gentlemen....and good luck with MS compression NY.... I'll play around too. Let me know what's up,

-Joel
 
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