microphone for this guitar / amp

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What microphone would you use for this guitar & amp:

Guitar: Paul Reed Smith "Santana"
Amp: Mesa Boogie Studio DC-2 Combo


in the SM57 price range (let's say up to $125)

I don't have a SM57, so if there's a better microphone to get let me know.

All I have is Nady SP5 and SP B1.

Performer likes doing: Santana, Clapton (Derek & the Dominos-era), Allman Brothers
 
nah, 57 would be your best choice in that range. and...in alot of ranges actually. a 57 is a standard for micing guitar cabs. especially mesa boogie type of tones. but, the b1 and sp5 are condensers and probably not a good start on guitar cabs. although, they do add good flavor to try every once in a while. but a 57 is a good place to start.
 
SM57 or Sennheiser e835 ... try the SP B1 a little further back on a seperate track and see if the extra 'air' adds anything to the sound.
 
I think you will be surprised how good the SP B1 will be.
I use a Berry B1 and get superb results live and recording.
 
yeah ... so if he's after a dynamic i still reckon he should still experiment with the B1, that way he can use either or both.

PS - Wilkee do you know where to get SP mics in England? To save you buying Berrys in future? www.dv247.com
 
A lot of people seem to like the Sennheiser e609 Silver on guitar amps, and you can walk out of Guitar Center with one for under $100.

Others are going to ask you what your room, preamp, and other variables look like, and all of that stuff is also very important. You may want to consider experimenting more with mic placement and/or investing in a preamp like the M-Audio DMP3, if you don't already have a good preamp to use.
 
sathyan said:
Performer likes doing: Santana, Clapton (Derek & the Dominos-era), Allman Brothers
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Steve used Sennheiser MD421's on Santana's amp on his last album.
 
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DJL said:
Steve used Sennheiser MD421's on Santana's amp on his last album.
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sathyan said:
in the SM57 price range (let's say up to $125)
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Show me where to get an MD421 for $125 :D
 
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Adam P said:
Show me where to get an MD421 for $125 :D
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Show me how to get Santana's sound for $125. :D
 
Touche!

I know what you're trying to say...just havin a little fun. :)
 
Goddamit DJL stop being so mushy! We had an agreement!

Er ... other than that, I stand by my choices, not having used the 609. Still think there's some experimentation to be done with what he has, too.
 
Just get a '57. If you don't have one, you SHOULD have one. Like most folks say, it's rarely brilliant on anything, but rarely sucks on anything, either.

I expect that the Derek and the Dominos 'sound' was a unidyne (pre-57) on a tweed champ with a strat. Just a guess. Sounds like it to me.

I'm not too far off sound-wise from the Derek and the Domino's type stuff, I use a '72 telecaster and a '65 deluxe reverb, and I just stick a '57 on the outside edge of the speaker and get good sound. (I've had folks ask me how I get such great guitar sounds and I have to chuckle. It's just the guitar, the amp, the '57, and analog tape, running a tad hot. Usually no EQ, sometimes a little. what's the big deal?)

No, seriously, a '57 will get you a decent guitar sound without much fuss. With much tougher stuff to get (like good drum sounds, vocal sounds, hammond organ, acoustic guitar, etc.) I'd rather spend my time getting THOSE things up to par than trying to upgrade my 'par' electric guitar sounds.

Super experienced engineers may tell you different; or they may not. They may use something else just because they're bored with the old stand-by. But the old stand-by certainly works.

g'luck.

Chris
 
SENNHEISER MD421 which can be found on ebay for some $100-150.

Or a Beyer M88 or M69, but since you have a B1 I would use that one a little further from the speaker in order to eliminate some proximity.
 
well, the b1 can only get so close without clipping anyway. depending how loud you're gonna have your amp. unless you have a pad i supose.
 
Thanks for all your comments. I'm gonna order a '57. If I don't like it, there seems to not be much of a problem unloading them on ebay.

I've read that a '57 really shines on an expensive pre. For now I will be running it directly into my Yamaha mixer. In the future I'm thinking of getting a DMP3. Great River's not going to happen. Is an expensive pre _necessary_?


One more thing, can you recommend a book on microphone placement?
 
sathyan said:
Thanks for all your comments. I'm gonna order a '57. If I don't like it, there seems to not be much of a problem unloading them on ebay.

I've read that a '57 really shines on an expensive pre. For now I will be running it directly into my Yamaha mixer. In the future I'm thinking of getting a DMP3. Great River's not going to happen. Is an expensive pre _necessary_?


One more thing, can you recommend a book on microphone placement?
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A good mic preamp is a good thing to have no matter what mics you have... and all mics will shine better with a good preamp... not just the SM57. ;) Get the best preamp you can afford... and if that happens to be a DMP3 rather that a MP-2NV then so be it... get it and have fun.
 
noisedude said:


PS - Wilkee do you know where to get SP mics in England? To save you buying Berrys in future? www.dv247.com
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I know I buy all my Berry gear from the one in Brum.

But why would I need an SP mike when I already own a couple of NT1000's which IMHO are still one of the real Mic bargains.

p.s. I also bought these from DigiVillage

p.p.s. Don't worry about my mike choices , worry about Leeds footy team instead:D
 
sorry, was just checking you knew cos lots of guys don't know there's a world beyond academy of sound and sound control!

i wasn't dissing your behringers, by the way.

as for leeds utd .... well, i'm a man utd fan. nuff said - it's a family thing!!! but it's not the place to be right now, i work on the turnstiles at elland road and let's just say they're not hopeful!!
 
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