Micing up the kit...

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Salabim

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i have up to six mics to play with...
where do i situate them around my kit???
(the type of mics may vary as i will be hiring a few of them for recording...)
 
hello salabim. i think if you would search for or just browse throug this section you will get a lot of responses for the question. including mics and mic setups.
 
sheesh, you have six mics and how many drums and cymbols did you say?
 
o yeah....
i have a four peice, wiht 2 crashes and a ride...
 
well thats pretty straight up then... put a mic six inches away from each one and mix it down to a track
 
Hello.....I have been playing drums now for 9 years.....and me and my dad now have a recording studio.....i think recording yourself is the best way to really get good....trying to play to a click track is probably on of the hardest things for me to do but thats not the point....i have tried many different ways of micing drums i have come up with many different ways.....where are you trying to mic.....in a big room or in like a small room studio? all these things matter....also what kind of mics are you using.....i have come to some conclusion that drums need different types of mics.....like the snare gets a SM58 and its really nice to have omni. overheads....so what mics do you have and where are you trying to mic them?
 
I've been playing drums for about 9 years now and have just recently invested in a 424 MK3. I have only had it for about 5 weeks now. I have come to the conclusion that all I need is a mixing board now so that I have more tracks to play with. My drumset takes up all my channels.
I think having two condenser mics as overheads, one on the snare and one on the kick would do the job.
I have been using the Peavey PVM480's as overheads, they also work awsome on djembe, conga and other percussion sounds. I have a shure beta 57A on my snare and use an SM57 on my kick. Those serve my purposes. The two 57s I put up close the head of a featured drum in a circle. If there are only 2 or 3 djembes playing we stand in a corner facing out and I put the 57A in the corner, It picks up the bass excelent.
Has anyone heard anything about Audix?
 
Audix is a little new (new being relative, they have been around for like 5 years now) microphone company out of Beaverton Oregon that made a bunch of threats about taking over the drum microphone market with their D series mics. Needless to say that they didn't succeed, and for good reason, the mics where generally unexciting. Very brash sounding in my opinion. Would work well for live sound if the PA was totally incapable of producing good high end or something. But for studio use, they tend to just be too bright in the upper mids, and you end up really cranking up the lows to get any meat.

They do make a vocal mic, the OM5 that is really nice for singers that don't have very good top on their voice. Sound somewhat similar to the EV n/d 457's, but without the annoying distorting when you hit it hard, and without the bloated low end the 457 suffered from. Very respectable vocal mic for live use. The OM3 is okay too, but not as smooth as the OM5.

Their D-4 kick drum mic should be avoided at all costs!!! That thing is a hunk o junk.

Ed
 
ya those audix mic's are ok......last week some drummer decided to rent some....and we recorded with them in our studio....i can to a conclusion as well.....they dont sound any better then those omni. mics at Radio Shack..
so i dont ever intend to bye them.....
Andy
 
six mics...well, of course put a dedicated kick mic on the kick and a Sm57 (i think it is the standard for good reason) on the snare, and you could mic the two toms and then two overheads. i prefer Sennheiser MD504s on toms, though they are hard to get now, and Audio Technica Pro37R s as overheads. the 37Rs are a great deal - they're cheap (i think ~$140 each) and they sound wonderful. i didn't particularly like the Audix (i'm also very hesitant about "drum mic packages" from manufacturers). my .02
 
Robert,

The Sennheiser 504 was replaced with the 604. Same mic but a new number. Those marketing guys must stay up nights to come up with these things. Go figure.

I bought a "3 pack" of the 604s from Sam Ash for $298. They come with the clip-on mounts for the drums. They are convenient and work reasonably well.
 
would sm57 or 58s work any good on the kit??
mainly on the kick snare and toms...
whats good for overheads????
 
yeah, about micing the drums, help me out too

got a NT-1, SM57, 58, AKG690...where would yall suggest i place each one? oh yeah and one AKG somethin or other...its square and old and i think its meant for kick so kick drum is taken care of. (unless there is better way) please email your response to drdoak@lokmail.net

[This message has been edited by Professa Plum (edited 04-18-2000).]
 
I wouldn't,if I could help it,use a 57 or 58 on the kick. They are fine on snares and toms but I would go for a larger diaphram mic for the kick. Personally I like the RE-20. Thats the mic most radio DJs' use to give their voice more balls. It kinda does the same thing for kick. I like it a little off center with the beater. Above or below it. It's one of those "it depends" kind of things. You will just have to move it around until you like it. I place the tom mics about 3 fingers high over the heads just inside the rims, the hi-hat is miced from the top about an inch or two but angled slightly away from the snare in an attempt to cut down on bleed, and the over heads about 3 feet above the cymbols with an omni pattern,if you have one,and all this is just to start with. I usually end up moving things around a bit but this gives me a good starting point. It all depends on the drummer,mics,and the room. Use the suggestions from the people here on this board because they have some good ideas, but don't be affraid to experiment. That is half the fun
Bleach
 
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