Micing a string quartet.........?

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Has anyone got any suggestions for micing a string quartet? I have a few ideas of my own but would appreciate any comments.

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I've experimented a bit and am on the beginning of a learning curve.

What I've done so far involves more mics than are needed, but they give me choices and help me to mitigate my lack of experience somewhat. You have to balance your own needs for more gear in the performers' faces with their own needs for an appropriate performance setting, particularly if this is a live concert.

Anyway, here's what I've done with some useful results. Assume the musicians are in a semicircle or a circle. Most everything uses overheads. This uses seven mics, one for most of the signal and the others provide a little imagery, soundstage depth and color.

One omni LDC in the center of the circle or semicircle, upside down and overhead at about six or seven feet high. I use a SP C3 and like it quite a lot. This gets me the strongest overall signal and tends to miss nothing.

One cardioid LDC at either side of the quartet (say, at four and eight o'clock) and a foot behind the musicians, about five feet high, pointed across the circle (2 & 10 c'clock) and slightly down (10 degrees) at the other side. I use what I have - SP B1 works fine for this.

One SDC overhead, pointing down, suspended 2' or 3' over the violin / viola. Neumann KM185. One SDC overhead over the cello player's right shoulder. Also a KM185.

A couple SDC ambient mics at a significant distance, X-Y and up high. MXL 603s.

I like to keep mics away from the instruments a bit, especially the cello. There's less harshness, less bow noise and more complexity to the sound. If you have time to experiment, try to pick up a signal from behind the cello - down pretty low, like a couple of feet off the gound and a couple of feet behind the player. There's a lot of sound going on there.

This will give you a palette of interesting stuff to work with.

You can also do this with one omni or a couple of LDC mics, or a combination of 4 LDC and SDC mics - you don't need a truckload to get a good sound.
 
Thanks Treeline, I planned to do the basic o/head setup but you've given me food for thought. I don't know the quartet's details yet and the tracks will be background tracks behind a "gritty" melodic alternative/pop band so the strings will probably get submixed down to two tracks at the most. I'll likely use a T3, and either B1's, 603's or Oktava 012's or all of them and just cull what I don't like........then again my ribbon might get a workout ;) .

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ausrock said:
then again my ribbon might get a workout ;) .

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Yeah, most of what I hear in popular music as string quartet backing sounds very ribbon to me. The only exception I can think of is that '80s Yes tune "Rhythm of Love", that's got a cutting string quartet sound for an intro.

What about an M-S with a ribbon M and condenser S? I wouldn't do that for a classical approach because I'd want to hear the cello R, but it might be interesting for pop.

Only a few precious days until my ribbon arrives . . .

I found this site, which has a few pics of a recording. Looks like some sort of spaced pair, with another mic in front, and in one picture there is a fourth mic stand showing, which maybe got moved back to be used as a room mic? I also note that the quartet is spaced a little more widely than they would normally perform. Kind of interesting:

http://www.asq4.com/ph_AAL.htm

I'm hoping to get into this kind of recording pretty soon, so please let us know what you end up with.
 
Depends a lot on the room. If you are in a nice room, walk up towards the ensemble and decide how close you want to get. Stick a pair in Blumlein where you like the sound the best. If the show is live, this will bring your audience into the mix. You may decide in that case to try a pair of cardiods in ORTF if cleanliness is important.

(Micing the cello from the back is a very pop technique, which loses a wack of the high end. Not recommended for classical recording). :D
 
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