metal coreish mix, what would you guys change?

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There are some young guys who came in to demo 1 song today. Got through everything in a few hours. Somethings I noticed when I listened out of the studio is that the drums may be too loud and some of the solos are too loud on guitars.

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Drums:
Gretsch Kick-Audix D6
Spaun Snare drum-57 top and bottom
Pearl Session Birch toms- 421's
PG 81 on hats
Spaced pair of baby bottles on overheads
Samson condenser room mic
Guitar-
ENGL Powerball head, matched with a mesa dual rec cab miced with a 421 and a 57
Bass-
good ol sans amp
 
You didn't use a click track did you? I think the performances need more work before we begin to comment on mixing. There are timing issues through out. I would also comment that the kick drums need tuned. Either that or your foot technique needs practice. There are all kinds of inconsistencies in the kicks. It could be either thing. Production-wise it ain't perfect, but you are on the right track. Just keep in mind that the performance is everything.
 
Yeah that sucks. That drummer is fucking awful. He needs to find a different genre.

The mix is a mess too. Guitars sound pretty good, but that's about it. The drums sound, to me, like they're not getting enough support from the overheads. Too much close mic. There's no glue holding the kit together, which is made exponentially worse by the drummer sucking so bad.
 
Hey Greg, which route would you go with the overheads? Should I turn down the spot mics or raise the overheads, room mic.
 
First of all, unless the room is very good and you took great care in positioning the room mic, I'd ditch the room mic track alltogether. Room mics suck in bad rooms. They never add anything of value to a drum mix unless it's a really, really good recording. I doubt most amateur/home-recorded stuff is done in a big enough and/or good enough room to warrant an actual room mic. A well thought out overhead setup is all you'd need.

In your case, I guess I'd bring the spot mics down until the kit becomes cohesive then bus em all to a group track and raise the whole kit as a unit.
 
...and then invest in a metronome. Practice, practice, practice.
 
Except for the timing hitches, I thought it was pretty good. Nice riffs and a good guitar sound. Good sense of arrangement too. You've got the basics, work on them.
 
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