Marshall AVT combos

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I'm thinking about picking up either a Marshall AVT20 or AVT50.
My budget is more along the lines of the AVT20, but considering it doesn't come with a footswitch is kinda cheesy. It definitely takes it out of the realm of using it live for me.

Anywho's...I was wondering if any AVT owners out there can tell me if you have to crank these suckers in order to get a good tone out of them for recording. Because I hear the AVT50's are very loud. Which wold suck a little for recording around here. Which would make the AVT20 a good choice for recording for me, but limiting if playing live.

thanks.
 
Go for the AVT50. You will only regret it when you realise that you need more power six months down the line.

The AVT series are bloody good amps, my guitarist plays one and the tones he gets from it are fabulous.
 
I have an AVT50 Combo and here's my honest assessment...

This amp is often maligned by people who believe you have to have several tubes in an amp in order for it to generate good tone. You could easily make a case for that line of thinking when you compare a solid state amp to a $2,000 Mesa Boogie, but not in an amplifier that costs under $500.

The "clean" channel...
The AVT50's clean channel has an excellent warm tone, despite having only one actual tube in the entire amp. Of course, the type of guitar you have plugged into it makes a difference, as you would expect. My Samick Ultramatic sounds thicker and jazzier than my G&L F100, which has a brighter, punchier tone with it's new Seymour Duncan Trembucker bridge pickup. I'm sure most other amps would vary the same way between these two different guitars.
The AVT50's clean channel does lose a bit of bightness when you crank it way, way up. But this only happens when your volume and gain are both more than 3/4 of the way up. At that point you're at deafening levels and approaching the threshhold of pain, so the ear-splitting treble would just make you cringe even more. I've seen guys trash this amp just for that reason alone... saying that it "turns to mud" when it's cranked up. But they're usually teenage metalheads that are exagerating the point.
Rest assured, the clean channel is quite excellent and has a nice warm tone!

As for the overdrive channel...
The overdrive channel is SPECTACULAR, to say the least!
It's just what you'd expect from a Marshall amplifier, and then some. I don't know how Marshall made that one tube sound so damned good, but they did it! It sounds just as good at low volume as it does cranked up. When playing out, the overdrive channel just begs to be cranked up, and you'll be happy to oblige.
You'll also be much happier with having a footswitch to change channels while playing live. I use mine constantly.
The reverb on the AVT50 is also stellar. I've been able to duplicate the tone of Clapton, Eddie Van Halen, Stevie Ray Vaughan, and many other guitar greats without the use of any pedals... just the adjustments on the amp itself.
The overdrive channel is simply phenomenal! :)

The AVT50 has some really neat features.
I use the Headphone Jack all the time. It disconnects the main speaker when you plug the headphones in, so you can practice in silence. This is a VERY useful feature.
The CD Input Jack allows you to connect a CD player into the amp to practice along with some of your favorite music. I haven't used it yet, but it can be handy at times.
The Emulated DI Out Jack allows you to record the amp directly into your recording source, without having to mic the amp. According to the manual, Marshall claims that it "accurately emulates the sonic signature of a guitar loudspeaker."
If that's true, that's a really cool option to have at your disposal.
There are also FX Send and FX Return Jacks, an External Speaker Jack, and the Footswitch Jack.

I'm sure the one thing you'd like to know is... do I like this amp?

Hell, yeah! :)
I've played out with it twice a week for the past couple of months.
I really like it alot. My AVT50 Combo has no problem keeping up with bigger, more powerful amps. Did I mention it will crack the windows in your house if you crank it up? :D
Anyway, I think you'd be happy with the AVT50 Combo.
Sorry that this post got so lengthy, but I did say I would give you an honest assessment, so there it is.

Whatever you do, DO NOT pay the $475 "sale price" that it goes for at Guitar Satan and everywhere else. There's room to work with on the AVT50 Combo. Because of all the gear I've purchased in the past at my local Guitar Center, I got mine for $350, which is just slightly over "cost". That's because I've spent about $15,000 there in the past 3 years. You should be able to talk them down to at least $425. Don't go to a regular salesperson, unless you've already got a relationship established with someone. I've worked directly with one of the managers for the past few years and it's saved me a bundle. My poor little credit card is worn out!
 
BTW, one other good reason to get the AVT50 Combo is that it's very light and compact.

I have a Peavey 212 Special that's very bulky and weighs about 80 pounds!
I got tired of lugging it around town, so I bought the Marshall to replace it.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Having a solid state power amp doesn't bother me much. I use to use tube preamps with solid state power amps in the past (ADA MP-1 and Kitty Hawk).

I have a little, old 15watt valvestate practice/bedside amp now. Fun to dink around with. But I want to step up to the newer ones. Plus my amp modeller through my old Peavey 1x12 combo sounds like ass :D

I don't think I'll be able to get the price down at Guitar Center too low. I haven't spent nearly that much there yet :) Maybe they can knock off a couple bucks for a former employee. I kind of like the goofy purple/special edition version of the AVT50. I'd prefer they had it in white like they do the AVT20.
 
Buck62 sums it up better than I could ... the AVT50 deserves a serious look!!! I have owed one for a bit less than a year and love it. Disgregard all the negative bias from so call tube-o-files ... the AVT50 actually kills alot of all-tube amps out there. Alot of beef with solid Marshall vibe. I love the match of the closed back cab with the speaker. That seems to be a big part of why this thing drives so well.

The only reason I can see that you might want to look elsewhere is if you want to play super clean at high volumes. You really cannot get there with the AVT50 ... the gain / master vol setup is not optimized for that. This is not a priority for me, but if it is for you, look at something like a Fender in the same price range. Of course the AVT50 will slaughter a Fender on the OD channel. Go to Guitar Center or similar, plug in a Gibson SG and dig in. You will very quickly get what the AVT50 is all about.
 
Went to pick up a Hafler power amp at GC today. The guy is gonna call up Marshall tomorrow to see if he can come up with a white AVT50 for me. He said it wouldn't be a problem to sell it to me for $425. I'm gonna try to get him at the price with tax included.

I'm not too worried about getting a super clean sound. I can use the piezos in my Parker to dial-in some crispy highs. I prefer more of a warm mid clean sound. I can always use a stereo cable with my Parker and go into my acoustic amp if I want to get a really clean sound if I need one.
 
I picked up an AVT50 half stack at a pawn shop in Mesa for $650. It's pretty sweet. I haven't played with the combos though.
 
TexRoadkill said:
I picked up an AVT50 half stack at a pawn shop in Mesa for $650. It's pretty sweet. I haven't played with the combos though.

Some guy from Mesa was selling his on eBay a couple of days ago. No one hit his reserve price of $400, so it didn't sell. It was only a month old. I was going to buy it if GC wasn't gonna me a decent deal on one.
 
$400 is pretty high for a reserve price.
Figure in the shipping charges of a 50 watt amplifier and you're right back up to $450!

Here's an AVT 50 that's at $300 right now with no reserve, but he wants $50 for shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=922689141

If you can get it for $400-shipped, that would be a pretty good price. Otherwise, you might as well wait for GC to locate one for you, so you have the option of returning or exchanging it if there's any kind of problem. $425 is still a good deal, and you'll get a warranty on "virgin" amp! ;)
 
Buck62 said:
$400 is pretty high for a reserve price.
Figure in the shipping charges of a 50 watt amplifier and you're right back up to $450!

Here's an AVT 50 that's at $300 right now with no reserve, but he wants $50 for shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=922689141

If you can get it for $400-shipped, that would be a pretty good price. Otherwise, you might as well wait for GC to locate one for you, so you have the option of returning or exchanging it if there's any kind of problem. $425 is still a good deal, and you'll get a warranty on "virgin" amp! ;)

I got that amp bookmarked also :)
The one in Mesa, I could just drive over to pick up, so I wouldn't need to pay for shipping.


Now it's just a matter if I want to one right away. Because I also want to get the Emagic Logic Big Box, which they'll stop selling at the end of December.
 
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