Marilyn Manson vocal recording question, must know.

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I am dying to know what anyone can offer as far as how Marilyn Manson produced the vocals on the album titled '' eat me drink me ''

I am very fascinated by them because i never cared for him but they sound so unique. It is not his singing that sounds unique but this visceral crunch to the voice. It seems to crunch everything he says and sings with force, but not fuzzing it out like a distortion plugin.

I know this is a recording trick because he sounds nothing like that in person and its not a natural thing in his voice, infact his voice sounds quite clear when singing these same songs. In fact, i can hear his normal voice in these songs and how this crunch effect slices it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeT8zcpaKzs
the chorus of this especially.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvf1DMDTosk&feature=fvst
from 3 40 and on. Listen at the E in ME that is drawn out, it's the most isolated the vocals get on the album.

Ive tried many many different distortions and all seem to fail. Any help is key to me.

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A lot of that comes from his voice and singing style...but I'm alsio hearing a tightly double-tracked vocal...and that second track/layer probaly has some extra processing done to it, while the primary vocal rides on top.
 
I think you're supposed to sing while gargling the blood of your recently murdered parents.
 
Sounds like normal singing to me. But then again, I am listening on crappy laptop speakers. Will check it out on headphones again.
 
Chorus, detune, reverb (I like to use about 100 dry, 20 wet, and 40% preverb and work my way from there)

Record one take, copy it, drop it onto a new track, offset it like a millisecond, then do it again on another track, hard left, center, hard right.

Or just slap back delay...

:D
 
I love Manson, as well... I know he often triple takes his vocals. One being the main vocal, which he then does again (like a double take), with the final one being more of a "spoken" take. Like in the creaky voice he uses when he goes real low. Listen hard and you can hear it underneath it all. It gives it a creepy sound. The mix of high doubled singing and low creaky speaking is probably what you're hearing.

As far as effects, I have no idea. I'm pretty sure that's how he does his parts, though, good luck.
 
Yeah, he definitely uses multiple tracks for his vocals. That's what gives them such a rich, thick sound most of the time. They tend to be very tight though so that some people don't even notice. One specific effect isn't likely to achieve that for you, especially a distortion which will tend to just make it muddy-sounding. As you notice there is a distorted effect on the Eat Me, Drink Me vocals but at the same time they are very clear sounding. If you try using at least two vocal tracks, with different effects, maybe even at different registers (such as one higher, one lower) I think you'll come closer to what you're looking for. You have to experiment though and find what works for you.

I've been experimenting with multiple vocal tracks for a while and I tend to get much stronger sounding results this way. I suppose it comes down to what kind of music is behind it as well. If it's very full and heavy sounding the vocals need to stand out more. If it's more raw and stripped down than you could use less vocal tracks as they would already be more prominent.
 
Step 1

Drink Absenta Serpis to properly prepare vocals.

Step 2

Place vintage condenser microphone on chest while lying on the floor to pick up resonation.

Step 3

Record only one or two takes and don't second guess yourself. Keep the takes as raw as possible with little or no effects.

Step 4

Compress the takes and adjust the vocal volume up rather than adjusting the other instrumental tracks down

Step 5

Mix everything down and master it.


-MM ‡
 
MarilynManson said:
Step 1

Drink Absenta Serpis to properly prepare vocals.

Step 2

Place vintage condenser microphone on chest while lying on the floor to pick up resonation.

Step 3

Record only one or two takes and don't second guess yourself. Keep the takes as raw as possible with little or no effects.

Step 4

Compress the takes and adjust the vocal volume up rather than adjusting the other instrumental tracks down

Step 5

Mix everything down and master it.


-MM ‡
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:laughings::laughings::laughings::laughings::laughings::laughings::laughings:
 
+1 on his voice. That's 90% of the mix.
Double/triple tracking is a big part of it.

I can't confirm this, but I always felt like at least one take was distorted a bit in a lot of his tracks.
He definitely has his own sound, whether that's natural or produced.

Man, I feel old. I had to google that track, only to learn that Holywood is no longer 'his new album'. :p
 
MarilynManson said:
Step 1

Drink Absenta Serpis to properly prepare vocals.

Step 2

Place vintage condenser microphone on chest while lying on the floor to pick up resonation.

Step 3

Record only one or two takes and don't second guess yourself. Keep the takes as raw as possible with little or no effects.

Step 4

Compress the takes and adjust the vocal volume up rather than adjusting the other instrumental tracks down

Step 5

Mix everything down and master it.


-MM ‡
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