Manley Langevin DVC vs. Great RIver NV2

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I am debating pres and have come down to 2:
ManleyLangevin DVC and the Great River NV2.
What do you all think?
All i have are the Focusrite Pres on a control 24 and I want to
get a dedicated preamp for vox/acoustics/bass di/oheads...
thanks in advance for your time.
dan
 
Here's a friend's quote on the Langevin DVC:

yeah....i've gotten great results with it the few times i've had the (luck) chance to use it...loved it on vocals, acoustic guitar, clean electric guitar, drum overheards, bass, and as a keyboard d.i.....liked it on just about everything else. it's extremely versatile.That's why it's on my short list of items "to purchase"...

i would have no problem using it on just about anything...the only reason i didn't choose it for some things, is that i had other choices at the time that were better in specific applications...FI, the Neve 1073 was better on the electric guitar cab...the DVC was very good, just not as good as the 1073...at least on that day, with that player, etc, etc....


PRE'S......

it's not "super" clean, but not dirty sounding either...it's definitely towards the cleaner side of things, but still has a bit of character...nice well defined lows with a smooth top end.

ELOP Limiter...

it's the discrete class A version of the Manley ELOP...a comp/limiter that i've talked about here many times...basically...IT RAWKS !!! very smooth, warm and fat sounding....(it works well for the 2 mix as well)

EQ....

not complex...not super versatile...just VERY musical. (nice EQ for the 2 mix, unless you have a GML "sitting around" ) it won't take a bad sound and magically make it good, but it'll definitely take a good sound and make it better...

D.I.

has about 40 dB's of gain(!!!)...very smooth, works well on keys and bass..i'd imagine that drum machines would sound good thru it as well.
 
People seem to either love the Langevin stuff or be unimpressed. The Great River seems to be universally loved. I can't say from personal experience, but as always, the best solution is to arrange a loan of both units from a pro audio dealer. Use them side by side in your own studio and you should be able to make a better decision than listening to a million recommendations.

There's at least three such places that will do that in the Boston area, so I doubt such service is unique. Especially if you convince the dealer that you will definitely purchase the "winner' of the shootout.
 
That is a Harmony Central user's post up there.... in a thread where I was asking about what to spend $3G's on.

That user highly recommended that unit, along with a U87.
The DVC seem to be a great unit, aside from the fact it is only $1600, street.

I'm at that cross-road as well.
Great River is awesome. Seems like a "must have" unit.

Bowisc
 
Bowisc said:
That is a Harmony Central user's post up there.... in a thread where I was asking about what to spend $3G's on.

That user highly recommended that unit, along with a U87.
The DVC seem to be a great unit, aside from the fact it is only $1600, street.

I'm at that cross-road as well.
Great River is awesome. Seems like a "must have" unit.

Bowisc

i should post the url. cross posting seems to be allowed around here.

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=133267
 
Dan, I wish I could give you a good comparison of the Langevin but the best I can do is share my experience with the GR NV.

I should preface my comments by saying you didn't give a lot of information the type of music and what other gear you are using so your mileage may vary.

The NV is definely a first call mic pre. Most of the (Nashville) engineers I talk to will always put the GR in their top 3 picks of mic pres. It deserves this reputation because it is extremely smooth sounding and has a nice solid bottom end. As you may know the NV is based on the Neve 1073 design.

I am currently doing a project and we have use the NV on just about every thing you can imagine. While a mic pre with a faster response time like the GR MP-2 or the Buzz Audio is best for some acoustic guitars, the NV is my first choice for vocals, guitar, drums...

It has plenty of gain and there is not even a hint of noise. I have a 60's vintage Sony 37a tube mic that is very warm, but it lacks gain. The NV handles with no problem and makes this mic sound wonderful, especially on vocals.

A nice feature of the GR is that you can drive the input transformers pretty hard by turning up the input gain and turning down the output. This gives a wide range of quality depending on the sound you are going for. I use this when recording bass via the front panel DI. Really gets a great rough sound but still clean bass guitar. I guess the word most would use is thick.

The NV also has insert points which are great because I can patch in a compressor in the signal path on a live gig without having a lot of other gear.

Dan not sure what else I can tell you but would be happy to answer any questions. I might be able to make some raw audio tracks available but not sure that will help. I did do some quick test on the DI with NV against a Mackie. I used the Mackie because there are so many of them out there and just about everyone has used, heard or owned one time or another. The difference was night and day. I can make those tracks available but the uncompressed wavs would be BIG and not sure what would be loss in the MP3 compression.

You might want to be aware that GR just announced a single channel NV called the MP-1NV. This little guy is build with the same armored tank quality of the 2NV and sounds exactly the same. So for a little less than $1k you could go that route. These are brand new and are rare so hardly anyone has the 1NV in stock right now but I know of where a few are.
1NV Photo

I like to do a lot stereo recording so for me the MP-2NV was the way to go.

Dan my last comment would be that the NV is definitely a mic pre that you will not be disappointed in and I know its a piece I will have in the rack for a looooong time. This is NOT a "trendy" piece of nouveau-gear that you see pouring into the market.

If you have more specific questions fire away.

Lee

p.s. The guy who owns and designs this gear is named Dan so it has to be good stuff, right ? :D
 
Lee:
thanks a million for your very informative comments!
Really appreciate it.
I am recording pop and country mostly with some rock.
The better mikes I have are..AT 3035, Soundelux 195 I believe and some
older 451's that I managed to buy used at a great price.

thanks again...
sorry about the cross posting...just need to get something quick for an Indie album project...appreciate allyour responses and your time.
dan
 
patty david said:
I am recording pop and country mostly with some rock.
The better mikes I have are..AT 3035, Soundelux 195 I believe and some older 451's that I managed to buy used at a great price.

Oooh the Soundelux 195 and the NV would be sweeeet vocal setup. You would have a tough combo with that pair. All you need is a nice room and a great voice. :)

Lee
 
The MP-2NV is a really, really good pre. It`s one you`ll keep forever!
I used it a while ago together with a Daking and Vintech X73 pre. The NV was clearly my favorite on almost all sources!

Amund
 
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