mackie vlz or soundcraft epm?

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Any comments for these series of mixers.
I am using cubase sx and record bass, guitar,vocals.
i would like to buy a mixer that has good quality pre-amps so i wouldn' t need my Behringer cheap rack pre amp.
currently i am using a beta 58 and soon will have a Rode condeser.
Note that i am not interested in many inputs cause i do not have 4 hands to play guitar and bass simultaniously..:)
i think 4-6 mono inputs should do the trick. at least 2 aux...
if you have another suggestion please share it...
P.S most important it will cost around 300-500 euros
 
I would say just skip the board alltogether unless you need to use outboard gear. Or need it for routing monitors or something of that nature. The soundcraft Would probably be a little more musical eq wise over the Mackie. The preamps on them are probably about the same quality. Just auditioned some of the soundcrafts and they are relatively quiet for that level mixer
 
I've had both Mackie's & Soundcrafts and the board that I still have is the Mackie. The 1202VLZ is a great flexible little mixer that sounds good, is built like a tank and has great routing possibilites. The Soundcrafts do have nice eq's but they lack in routing and I think the knobs are a little flimsy.
 
After looking into this further I find myself now considering this question. I have a live recording gig coming up and am always taking the risk of renting a board. The Soundcraft EPM12 looks kinda nice but it's so new apparently no one has reviewed this series yet. While a 4 bus board was very important to me the bucks saved by going 2 bus and subbing out my drum tracks to my 1202vlz might be worth it. Supposed decent preamps (GB30 Mic amp (designed by Graham Blyth for the company’s 30th anniversary, and also used on the larger LX7ii and GB Series consoles)

Does anyone have any experience with these new Soundcraft EPM series boards? Are they worth it? Because they are remarkably inexpensive.

http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=136
 
Hi Riffy

I have just brought a Soundcraft EPM 6, and I really love the sound, lovely mic pre's ,the eq's are great too . overall very warm sound and the mixer is noise free.

I also was impressed with the price. I am a singer/guitarist solo performer so the EPM 6 does me fine, has all I need. Great headroom too .

Works well going through my RCF ART 310-A active speaker.

dave
 
I own a Soundcraft Spirit, and a Mackie 24-4 vlz pro. I thing the soundcraft has slightly better electronics (pres and eq). If you don't need a mixer for live gigs, I suggest spending the cash on a decent preamp.
 
i have a spirit M12 and a compact. i think the emp series uses the same pres as the compact series. the spirit pres are just fantastic. better than dmp3 or just about any affordable mixer's pre i've heard. the compact's pres are really really good for their price. i had to do some punch ins for a messed up vocal track that was originally recorded with a dmp3 about a year ago. as i had sold dmp3 by then i just used the compact....and guess what. i couldn't hear a difference aside from some added warmth in the compact's pre. just a tad.
 
I do have a Soundcraft compact 4 and although the mic pre's are nice they are different to the epm compact series. The mic pre's on the epm series are the same as thier more expensive consoles , very nice.

Dave
 
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