Mackie, JBL, KRK.. which monitors should i get?

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Hey, Im looking into buying my second pair of studio monitors(first ones were cheap passives from ebay), and im wondering if anyone has feedback on the:

Mackie MR5 and MR8,
JBL LSR2325P and LSR2328P, and
KRK RP5G2, RP6G2, RP8G2, and VXT4.

Does anyone have experience trying the different brands out? The larger woofers will allow extended bass range, but how much of a difference does it make? I'll be recording, mixing, and mastering for many different genres with all sorts of intruments. Oh and I'm only looking at these specific models. I get great deals on them :cool:

thanks in advance for any help i can get
 
i have the RP8 G2's, I like them...they can seem a little muddy but im not in a very good room...mixes on them seem to translate well but im not 100% confident with them, though that could be my listening environment

the krk's would probably be the budget option in your line up...the woofers do make a difference, i have smaller monitors that i thought id run alongside the rp8s but theyve been relegated to the TV...cant believe i managed to mix on 5" woofers..they sound so tinny

I tried the krks against events and mackies in the same price range, id suggest you do too if you can..also invest in some mopads and stands...I dont have stands due to room size but im sure that would help my perceived problems
 
ok, so for a pair I'd be looking at the mackie MR8 for $220, JBL LSR2328P for $300, and the RP8G2 for $220. I don't know what stands I'll be getting(definitely getting some) but I'd get some mopads for around $20. Price isn't really an issue here. Im just looking for the Most accurate pair of monitors out of the bunch.
 
ok, so for a pair I'd be looking at the mackie MR8 for $220, JBL LSR2328P for $300, and the RP8G2 for $220. I don't know what stands I'll be getting(definitely getting some) but I'd get some mopads for around $20. Price isn't really an issue here. Im just looking for the Most accurate pair of monitors out of the bunch.

thats price per monitor surely??? :confused:
 
No its for the pair. And I got a hint about the Yamaha HS80M, and I'm looking into the price for a pair of those, but it would probably be about the same.

Is your recommendation the KRKs regardless of price?
 
wow thats some deal....no im not recommending them, i like them and they suit my needs so far, but maybe not yours...
 
Hey at those prices can you get me a pair of each?







:cool:
 
What do you guys think about mixing with subs? I've heard its pretty important. Plus then you may not need 8" monitors but you could just get 5" ones? I could get those JBL with the 8" monitors and the 10" sub for 480 or the 6" monitors with the sub for 380...

How would you hook them up? Would you need a crossover for it?
 
get 8's and a sub and never worry about bass again :D

I suppose... but I don't want my monitoring setup to be too bass heavy.

BTW i looked into those yamahas and they are definitely in my range too at 310 for the pair. Are those any good compared to say the JBLs(prob my frontrunner)?
 
Well I've decided to buy 8" monitors for now, and get a sub later if i decide i need it. I've also narrowed it down to the KRK RP8G2s and the Mackie MR8s based on price(buying a lot of other stuff and am short on cash). Any comparisons between the two?
 
I'd buy a whole truckload of monitors at those prices! Seriously, buy em all, sell off the ones you ultimately don't want, profit. Repeat until millionaire==true.
 
Well I've decided to buy 8" monitors for now, and get a sub later if i decide i need it. I've also narrowed it down to the KRK RP8G2s and the Mackie MR8s based on price(buying a lot of other stuff and am short on cash). Any comparisons between the two?

i preferred the rokkits but i produce electronic music, i liked the detail in the bottom end of kicks and the sub bass...ive heard others prefer the mackies in here though..this doesnt help you because its up to your ears not other peoples

all i can say they were very close, im no expert, but they sounded very close to me..I listened to events as well and was attracted to them as i could get them cheaper...but they didnt have as good a bottom end..


saying that now im in my home environment, in a very poor room (basically a hall), i dont use the krks to their full advantage so Im talking about what i heard in the shop and only one genre..i dont produce anything else
 
I've done a lot of research, and from what I hear it seems like the Mackies are a cleaner crisper sound(better for acoustic kinds of music), and the KRKs are more full and bassy(better for full rock bands and other busy sounding music). Unfortunately, I will be recording both acoustic and busy music. But I think the KRKs might be more suited for my purposes, so I think those are the ones I'm going to get. Unless someone thinks the information I've collected isn't necessarily true?
 
IDK about the mr8's, but I heard some hr824's once and it was like hearing glorious beauty that words could never describe. I like Mackie stuff, it sounds good and it lasts forever. I know the mr8's aren't on the same level but still.... Their low end is still pretty good.

JBL stuff is really nice too! ppl I know talk it up more than mackie.. I wouldn't mind trying out a pair of those.

The krk's are decent too, but I think the mackies and the jbl's are prolly a little higher end. I have the rokit 8's, I like em, but I'm not married to em...

Double check your prices. The prices you state are REAL close to everyone's SINGLE monitor price. If you can really get em for those prices, that's 1/2 price. TAKE EM ALL and sell em later!
 
IDK about the mr8's, but I heard some hr824's once and it was like hearing glorious beauty that words could never describe. I like Mackie stuff, it sounds good and it lasts forever. I know the mr8's aren't on the same level but still.... Their low end is still pretty good.

JBL stuff is really nice too! ppl I know talk it up more than mackie.. I wouldn't mind trying out a pair of those.

The krk's are decent too, but I think the mackies and the jbl's are prolly a little higher end. I have the rokit 8's, I like em, but I'm not married to em...

Double check your prices. The prices you state are REAL close to everyone's SINGLE monitor price. If you can really get em for those prices, that's 1/2 price. TAKE EM ALL and sell em later!

Well right now it's between the Mackies and KRKs based on price, and I'm leaning towards the KRKs because i hear they are mid-range heavy and almost slightly muddy, so when i mix with them, it will be the opposite on most audio systems, which is what i want. The mackies are very clear and crisp, so when i mix with them it will sound slightly muddy on other systems? is this at all true?

The price is definately for a new pair, and I don't have the money for 2 pairs, because I'm buying a lot of other stuff at the moment.
 
Well i just found out i can get a pair of tannoy reveal 501a for 100 but I realized I already had a pair of 6" passive monitors, so I'm looking for an 8" set. I ruled out the KRKs based on suggestions from someone I know. So my new options are:

mackie mr8 for 220
m audio bx8a for 240
JBL LSR2328P for 300
Yamaha HS80M for 300

any opinions?
 
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the best option is Yamaha HS80m, no doubts.
the m audio and mackies are crap IMHO compared to the yammies.

or a pair of VXT4 and in some future buy the subwoofer KRK 10s(for a full range response), the best small monitors below u$s 1000 with the flawless Dynaudio BM5A and Adam A7
they are in the same category as Genelec 8020
stereo imaging is awesome and the mid response is better than a Dynaudio BM5A and the highs are very clear and not far away in comparision of the Adam A7(one of the greatest monitors).
don't be fooled about their size, they are a small monsters with incredible bass response(for their size of course).

the materials used are superior compared to the entry level monitors like yamaha HS series, KRK RokitsG2, Mackie MR, samson Rubicon, M Audio BX, Behringer Truth, etc.

i'm not the only who say this about these incredible small monsters, if you use google and search a bit you can see a lot of same opinions as me.

IMHO the best options for a studio are
Yamaha HS80m
VXT4 + Sub
Adam A7(out of budget)
Dynaudio BM5A(out of budget)

here you cand find more about the VXT4's
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I happen to have a pair of VXT4s for tracking on location. I have mixed with them in various untreated spaces and I find that they are fine for the task. In a smaller, untreated room they are an excellent choice in my opinion. They lack some low frequency content and they don't move as much air as larger drivers would. They also don't have very powerful amps, so they won't get extremely loud, but they are loud enough to get the job done, and then some. They are voiced so that the midrange is very clear and natural, the bass is un-hyped and the highs, while a touch forward and a bit brash, aren't obnoxious (to my ears at least) and the balance is reliable enough to make mixing on them a process that one can trust for the purpose of translating one's mixes to a wide variety of playback systems, with a relatively short learning curve.

What I find one of the most pleasing features of the VXT sound is the lack of boxiness that I usually hear from nearfields. They are very useful speakers that don't suffer from as many of the faults that most small, active, ported nearfields suffer from. In my opinion they are some of the most useful and reliable small monitors available. If you are in the market for a more full range sound, yet you happen to have the VXT4s they pair nicely with the KRK 10 sub. I use them this way and I enjoy it a lot. On the whole I'm very impressed with the VXT line as I feel they are exceptionally good for their target market and they hold their own well against monitors costing much more in my opinion.

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Not long ago I bought the KRK vxt4 monitors because I needed something small and portable for tracking on location. I was recording a local band and I realized that I'd want some cute little monitors that happen to translate well enough to do the job. I was surprised then to find out that KRK was phasing out it's V series and I was a bit hurt by that. Those had always been a great low cost monitor. I would have bought a pair of V series monitors anyway, they aren't that hard to find, but I learned that KRK had actually replaced them with something that was supposed to be better and that was actually based on their top of the line Expose monitors which I already had, mixed on daily and loved dearly. Enter the VXT range.

The VXTs are really a well thought out series of products that aren't nearly in the range of "strictly built to cost". The materials used are superior IMO to many "low cost" monitors, Kevlar drivers, silk dome tweeters, ABS structural foam filled shells, (they are crazy heavy for their size), a major departure from the almost ubiquitous MDF. Their shape is designed to reduce inner cabinet standing waves and resonances by having no parallel surfaces. Their features are usefull with a limiter circuit that you can switch off and a clip indicator as well as frequency adjustment for the larger two models. Their sizes are for specific applications or room sizes. In larger rooms or when working without a sub or in a midfield position the VXT 8s are a perfect choice. In smaller or poorly treated rooms working in a nearfield position with the VXT 4s is truly a great setup, (though if mixing on them I'd use a sub). The VXT 6s fall somewhere in between the two others.

As I mentioned before I needed something small but well translating so I chose the 4s. Recently I decided to try my hand at mixing on the 4s so that I could review them. Truthfully I was surprised. In the nearfield position the lttle 4s are killer. They have a beautiful midrange clarity that is so welcoming to me. The high end is clear without being unecessarily overstated as I tend to feel Adam monitors do often. The bass is not distorted or hyped at all. There certainly isn't much of it but I don't expect there to be because of the size of the speakers to begin with. To be fair I think these monitors could fairly well be used to mix with by themselves but I choose to use a calibrated sub. In short these monitors translate well. But the truth is that any monitor will require a learning period. I'm not going to say that they are as good as 5k serious loudspeakers but they've got the essence of that kind of engineering down quite well. They are some of the best small loudspeakers I've listened to in any price range. Details are clear and a bit forward. What you give is very close to what you'll get.

At $600 they're not as cheap as entry level monitors but if you're serious and you have the cash I think they're worth the investment, especially in smaller or poorly treated rooms. I'd pair them with the KRK sub for full range mixing capabilities. That puts you at $900 for a quality, full range monitoring setup. Not bad. You could definitely do worse.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/aug07/articles/krk_vxt4.htm
http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/recording/monitors/vxt4-143664/review
 
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