Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro + Omnistudio Delta 66 soundcard + Cubase

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I have somewhat learned to use the delta 66 soundcard (yea i own one).

I just baught the Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro mixer, and I want to multitrack record drums and give a different channel to each mic (3 or 4 mics) in cubase (so i can eq overheads separately, etc.).

1. I have no idea how to use Cubase to do that.
2. I have no idea what to plug into where with this mixer.
3. I don't know where to plug that stuff into the soundcard.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
I don't use Cubase, but I do use a Mackie and a Delta Sound Card (1010). The procedure should go something like this.

Plug each of your mics into the Mackie. Run a cable from the mixer's Channel Direct Outs into the sound card (or breakout box). If the mixer doesn't have direct outs, use the channel inserts instead (your manual should have instructions on this).

Set up a track in Cubase for each feed from the Mackie and set the track source in Cubase to correspond.

So, for ex., you have the snare mic plugged into Channel 1. A cable going from the Mackie Channel 1 direct out to Input 1 on the sound card. A track in Cubase labeled snare with the source set as 1/2 Left.

The only exception might be your overheads, which you may want to set up as a stereo track with the stereo pair as the source.
 
thanks alot!



anyone know how to do this in cubase?
 
you posted the same question in another forum.....what dachay explained to you above goes for the Cubase as well....and read the page 20 in your "getting into details" part of manual

good luck...
cheers
 
hey can i use 4 ins of my soundcard to put each mic on a different channel in cubase or do I have only 2?

I'm not very good with the 66.
 
You can have 4 individual mono tracks, or 2 individual stereo tracks, or any combo of that (e.g., 2 mono's and 1 stereeo).

Each mic will feed it's own track, unless you record as a stereo track, in that case one mic will feed the left and the other the right.

With 4 mics for drums you probably want to mic the snare (mono) the kick (mono) and then 2 overheads as a stereo track.
 
I still have two problems left.

1. i am not sure how to get Cubase to record each mic from each in of the soundcard to another track even in Multi-record mode (not to mention i'm not even sure how many my soundcard has)
2. I just can't get the mixer to work. I've tried for a long period of time to get it to work, but no response. It's plugged in, i put the mics in to the mic sections at top, turn up fader(s) and there's no response (even with phantom power and all)


Please help i'm really frustrated
 
You might want to try the first question in the Cubase forum.

As for the second question, have you set the gain on the Mackie? I believe the knob is labeled "trim." The instructions for setting it are on page 1 of the manual.
 
OK, then how are you connecting from the Mackie to the sound card?

Does the mixer have direct outs? Or are you using the Channel Inserts?

If you are using the Channel Inserts connection, in order to use them as a "send" on a Mackie I believe you should only push the plug in until you hear the first click. In other words, don't push the plug all the way into the jack. Just insert it until you hear the first click (halfway).
 
Yea i'm using the inserts.

That can explain a lot!

From that they connect into the left (1st) input of the soundcard.

I'd plug some into the 2nd if I knew how to get Cubase to record to different tracks for mixing but I don't :(


Anyway, thanks a lot for the help any more would still be great to have :)
 
You have to select the input channel on the top of the mixer window for each track. Ctrl click on PC, click to the left of the button on mac to access a drop down for selecting which input you want to record on each track. Also make sure you go to the VST input menu to select your inputs. Hope this helps.
 
FWIW, I use a Mackie 1402 and the Delta 66 with Cubase 5.1 (also have SX).

I didn't notice which version of Cubase you are using.

It sounds like you followed dachay2tnr's good avice about the first click on the inserts for each channel.

Also, it sounds like you understand the "Multirecord" function of Cubase.

Next, go the the "Panels" menu and select "VST Inputs."

It should give you the option to enable all 6 of the 66's inputs (4 analog and 2 S/PDIF). Make sure at least all of the analog inputs are enabled.

Next, in the "Panels" menu, open the "VST Channel Mixer 1."
[Ctrl]-Left Click to select the desired input on each channel.
 
Thanks for the advice!

I haven't tried it yet (the very last part).

Wow 6 inputs? I'm relieved big time.

So if I recorded with 6 mics on drums (multi-tracking drums only), then I can mix all 6 mics separately with the Delta 66?
 
Sorry for double posting, but I just wanted to ask you guys if you know more about the multirecord function.

In a way I understand, but I'm wondering what all those options do, and I'm guessing active activates it.

Do I select channel for each mic to go onto a separate channel?
 
musicsdarkangel said:
Thanks for the advice!

I haven't tried it yet (the very last part).

Wow 6 inputs? I'm relieved big time.

So if I recorded with 6 mics on drums (multi-tracking drums only), then I can mix all 6 mics separately with the Delta 66?
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Only if you have a way of converting two mic's to S/PDIF.
Like I mentioned above, you have 4 analog and 2 S/PDIF (digital).

For example, I personally can use my VS880 or my Finalizer Plus to convert to S/PDIF to utilize the extra inputs.
 
musicsdarkangel said:
Sorry for double posting, but I just wanted to ask you guys if you know more about the multirecord function.

In a way I understand, but I'm wondering what all those options do, and I'm guessing active activates it.

Do I select channel for each mic to go onto a separate channel?
Click to expand...

If I understand your question correctly, the answer is Yes.
 
dachay2tnr said:
OK, then how are you connecting from the Mackie to the sound card?

Does the mixer have direct outs? Or are you using the Channel Inserts?

If you are using the Channel Inserts connection, in order to use them as a "send" on a Mackie I believe you should only push the plug in until you hear the first click. In other words, don't push the plug all the way into the jack. Just insert it until you hear the first click (halfway).
Click to expand...

Are you saying that the channnel inserts can be used as "outs"? I have a Behringer 2004A mixer with 8 channel inserts but I thought these were basically to run effects through. Been trying to figure out a way to isolate tracks without getting more expensive equipment. The 2004A has only one stereo L/R out and an ALT 3/4 out.
 
MichaelF said:

Are you saying that the channnel inserts can be used as "outs"?
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Yes. Thus, you are just using the preamp section of your mixer.

To use each channel as an individual preamp, just insert the 1/4" plug into the insert jack to the first click. I.e., not all the way in.
 
Lopp said:


Only if you have a way of converting two mic's to S/PDIF.
Like I mentioned above, you have 4 analog and 2 S/PDIF (digital).

For example, I personally can use my VS880 or my Finalizer Plus to convert to S/PDIF to utilize the extra inputs.
Click to expand...

so I only have two?
 
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