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batchmister1
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Greetings
Do Macs really crash less often than Pcs? If so Why?
Do Macs really crash less often than Pcs? If so Why?
Anomaly Design
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There is no difference, only preference.
Cyanide-Depende
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no they dont "crash" they "bomb"
Saying that macs dont "Crash" is basicly just marketing, want to see a mac OSX version of hte blue screen of death? check this out http://ill-conceived.com/pics4u/mac_crash.jpg propellorheads crashed a mac while writing reason 3.0 the computer had to be reimaged....
what it comes down to is, what OS are you used to? but its getting to the point where the only difference is that macs are more overpriced than pc's
-C$
Saying that macs dont "Crash" is basicly just marketing, want to see a mac OSX version of hte blue screen of death? check this out http://ill-conceived.com/pics4u/mac_crash.jpg propellorheads crashed a mac while writing reason 3.0 the computer had to be reimaged....
what it comes down to is, what OS are you used to? but its getting to the point where the only difference is that macs are more overpriced than pc's
-C$
Creamyapples1
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Honestly, I prefer apples over oranges... 
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studiomaster
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Use what you want to use;not what others use.
random.hero
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ahhh i hate macs...
pc is the way to go
thats just my opinion
pc is the way to go
thats just my opinion
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studiomaster
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random.hero said:
why do you 'hate' macs? thats a pretty vague word you used.
Cyanide-Depende
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I "hate macs" too but its just my experience, macs have locked up and unexpectedlt quit programs more times than my pc has. WHen I was still in coillege we used macs, and you probably had a 50-50 chance that when you click save the app would quit without saving and it would say "Bomb!" and would give you a buttonm to "recover" from the bomb, click the button, and it locked completley, the mouse even stopped moving. People said it was because it was a school mac, but i still avoided it for a few years, then they put me on a mac here and... it didnt say bomb anymore, yay.... well, ok not yay, because it just skipped that step and froze completly, or quit the program and refreshed the background. so now im back on a pc here and im actually happy. not that pcs dont crash, I just seem to have better luck with them.studiomaster said:
OH YEA! another mac thing i hate, the keyboard "shortcuts"
that involve 15 keys... "to move this here press and hold ctrl apple shift alt enter return 1 a r F8 capslock tab h t space then click and drag....."
-C$
OhSh1rt
Who needs a 57 anyway?
No. While apple did try and do things right with a BSD core (freebsd based wasnt it?), They changed it too much (IMHO). I'd love to have a MAC, but ive been using PC for all of my (short) life.
They are a bit pricey and they also like to change their minds, first claming that the PowerPC was an huge upgrade over x86, then switching to an intel platform and saying its better (Remeber marketing. They use'd diffrent compilers on the benchmarks)
It all boils down to what you like. Though thoes apple displays look pretty fucking awesome.
-jeffrey
They are a bit pricey and they also like to change their minds, first claming that the PowerPC was an huge upgrade over x86, then switching to an intel platform and saying its better (Remeber marketing. They use'd diffrent compilers on the benchmarks)
It all boils down to what you like. Though thoes apple displays look pretty fucking awesome.
-jeffrey
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zekthedeadcow
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If Macs ran a proper X server I probably would buy one... I might buy an old one or a mini and put linux on it... I just prefer linux. Macs Aqua GUI just sucks...
Getting proper tech suppoer is a pain too... $50 for phone support or ask a Mac Genius who doesn't know squat...
eMacs are the worst though...
Getting proper tech suppoer is a pain too... $50 for phone support or ask a Mac Genius who doesn't know squat...
eMacs are the worst though...
bubbagump
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As the flick says... Macs just crash different. I work on both and have found both to be about the same. The less crap installed and the more care you take the better it is no matter the computer. At then end of the day it is usually flakey drivers and plugins that cause problems... not the OS.
giraffe
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if you're music computer is on the internet, than yes.... a Mac will crash way less often.
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Cyanide-Depende said:
public computers are impossible to maintain, regardles of platform.
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Cyanide-Depende said:
That dialog hasn't been around since Mac OS 9 and earlier. Comparing a modern PC to a Mac that had the dialog box in question is like comparing XP to Windows 3.1. Mac OS X is a ground up rewrite of the entire OS.
I occasionally see applications crash these days, but the last time my Mac itself crashed was... at least a couple of years ago (and at least one major OS version ago).
zekthedeadcow said:
You do know that Apple has an X11 implementation that you can install as an option when you install the OS, right? And that you can either run it in full screen mode (with your own window manager) or (by default) mixed with the native windows?
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OhSh1rt said:
To be fair, Intel's CPU technology changed pretty dramatically between those two periods.
- The Core Duo (Pentium M-based) has fewer pipeline stages than the G5, and has fairly good computing power per watt.
- The Pentium IV (state of the art only a year ago) is an absolute dog, coming in at almost TWICE as many pipeline stages as the G5, lousy compute power per watt, and no SMP capability (HT doesn't count) until you move up to the Xeon.
The G5 ate P4 for breakfast. Core Duo is a much more even match, and does so on a much reduced power budget. It's not a case of Apple changing their minds about the architecture. It's a case of Intel getting some real competition from AMD and dramatically improving their CPUs.
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tbone36109
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as long as you pay attention to what your doing on a pc it shouldnt (99% of spyware and other crap is the users fault)giraffe said:
MessianicDreams
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well PCs are more vulnerable to virusesfor the simple reason that most of the viruses out there are aimed at PCs rather than macs.
macs tend to be a LOT more expensive than PCs if you compare specs and prices. they are also a pain in the ass to replace bits for when things fuck up, whereas it's very easy (and a hell of a lot cheaper) to get bits of PCs.
to say macs are more stable is an overstatement i think, i've had loads of macs crash on me for unknown reasons..
however, many audio programs (Logic, Pro Tools etc) seem better suited for macs. Logic doesn't even exist for PC anymore, and its a piece of piss to get PT to work with Macs whereas its a bit more of a pain to get it to work with a PC (loads of compatability issues with chipsets etc)..
macs tend to be a LOT more expensive than PCs if you compare specs and prices. they are also a pain in the ass to replace bits for when things fuck up, whereas it's very easy (and a hell of a lot cheaper) to get bits of PCs.
to say macs are more stable is an overstatement i think, i've had loads of macs crash on me for unknown reasons..
however, many audio programs (Logic, Pro Tools etc) seem better suited for macs. Logic doesn't even exist for PC anymore, and its a piece of piss to get PT to work with Macs whereas its a bit more of a pain to get it to work with a PC (loads of compatability issues with chipsets etc)..
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DaveM
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I have a 17" IMac and I love this damn computer. The iLife suite works great. I can transfer my video from my digital8 camcorder without any problems. It comes with the crazy little camera built in. The iLife software is great for me needs at the moment, with the exception of Logic Express.
Anyway, I like the mac better. I seem to screw around with it less than a PC. But that was a while ago. I guess I'm just more tuned into the mac way. It really does just work. Just my opinion.
As far as cost. I found them to be comparable when you put them side by side. With the Core Duo, the RAM, hard drive, software, I think the PC was a hundred or two less.
Anyway, I like the mac better. I seem to screw around with it less than a PC. But that was a while ago. I guess I'm just more tuned into the mac way. It really does just work. Just my opinion.
As far as cost. I found them to be comparable when you put them side by side. With the Core Duo, the RAM, hard drive, software, I think the PC was a hundred or two less.
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lucky13
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I've been doing audio on Macs for about 3 years now. Mostly G4's running OSX and I've had one crash exactly once. I recently bought a Mac Mini, with the 1.42 GHz G$ processor, and I have had no problems whatsoever. It has been a perfect computer. The PC I use in my home office on the other hand has had to be formatted twice, and still doesn't run correctly, and it crashes about once every week or two, and I've never visited a porn site, or a file sharing site on it. I have never gone to any site that I thought would have spyware or other such problems. I prefer the mac, and the mini isn't all that expensive at all.
sile2001
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It all comes down to how the OS is taken care of. My PC desktop is a machine that I built myself. It constantly runs at a temperature that is higher than is good for it, it only gets restarted maybe twice a month, WinXP was installed on a PATA drive, which was later cloned over to a SATA drive (without reinstalling), I have no anti-virus and only my router's firewall. It runs everything from Office to Quake 4 to Sonar 5/Ableton/Reason. The thing is stable as a rock and has crashed only once in the past year, and that was due to a bug in an ATI video driver.
Macs are not inherently more stable than PC's...it's just harder for viruses and spyware and incompetent users to screw them up. If you actually pay attention to what you install on it and are not incompetent in how to maintain an OS, then Windows XP is a great platform!
Macs are not inherently more stable than PC's...it's just harder for viruses and spyware and incompetent users to screw them up. If you actually pay attention to what you install on it and are not incompetent in how to maintain an OS, then Windows XP is a great platform!