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xstatic
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Than that person will no longer be able to use Pro Tools.
legionserial
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The HD systems are the price they are because of the demographic that uses them. ie professionals. If they can make that sort of money from selling to professionals and theres a market for it, then why not? Its the same thing as why top notch guitars will cost more. Because there are people that can afford and will buy.
ssscientist
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Wow!bennychico11 said:
Congratulations, bennychico! You've finally outed yourself as a self-hating home recordist!
You're also dangerously close to outing yourself as a racist.
I know from past posts that you believe our President is doing a fine job, but I had no idea that your basic confusion ran this deep.
This site is called 'homerecording dot com'. It's a site for people interested in learning about all aspects of home recording. If all you have to offer is that more expensive units separate the professionals from the wannabe's you don't have any business here.
bennychico11
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ssscientist said:
hahaha, i'm not going to even comment on your "racist" opinion of me or that political jab (which on both you were way off)....because I don't feel like having to prove my comments were not racial in any way (and you're fuckin' moron if you think that).
You're right...this is homerecording.com....but probably half of the people here record professionally or wish they could do it for a living. And I'm one of them. Yes I record at home for myself as well. But the money that keeps food on the table and a roof over my head comes from recording....so your damn right I wish equipment was more expensive so that the bigger studios had an edge on the market still. That way the same program I use at work wouldn't be the same one 16 year old little Johnny could use at home just because his parents were rich and bought it for him or he pirated it online. It's called job security.
My comment was geared towards people who buy a pro tools system and market themselves as a professional studio because they have Pro Tools (in fact sscientist, I think YOU have commented on this several times as well).
BTW, I've never pushed Pro Tools on anyone here on this site. Never recommended it as the sole program out there people should buy. I never join into the newbie thread when someone is asking what he should get and say Pro Tools. I never join threads where YOU are recommending Cubase or whatever and say "Cubase sucks...sscientist just preaches Cubase all the time!"...unlike how you do. I really only join Pro Tools threads anymore when people are requesting information about it or to correct incorrect statements made about it.
This thread was started by someone asking questions about M-Powered...unless you have something to contribute that is constructive, YOU don't belong here.
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chamelious
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Well, surely its the skills that matter and not the software. Ideally the software would be available to all, and then those with the best recording skills would retain job security. Your job shouldn't really be threatened by a *16 year old jonny* just because he happens to have to same software as you. Anyway my only point is i think its wrong that theres an excessive overhead on "proffessional" software, that is, software that does what we need it to.
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chamelious said:
you would think that....it makes total sense to you and I.
But unfortuantely we live in a world where the average consumer wants "cheaper and faster". Otherwise we wouldn't be having so many big studios closing down. The home recording market is threatening the larger studio market...we've talked about this plenty of times on this forum. Because computers, microphones and software are becoming so cheap it's easier for you to record at home than pay $125 an hour to record in a studio.
Yes, WE know that to get great a sound we have to use great gear and great skills which is usually only affordable by the bigger studios. They have the Neves, they have the outboard pres, they have the analog tape, they have the sound booths....but not everyone thinks that way nor can afford it, so they just do it at home. The Pro Tools systems are one of the last recording programs that are geared towards bigger professional studios. Everything else you can buy for home or pirate on Limewire. It's great for the home recording enthusiast, but sad for the bigger studios because no one needs them as much as they used to.
The post production world is heading that direction too. Home video/audio editing programs are so affordable now that they don't need the high end stuff.
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Raw-Tracks
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chamelious said:
Well, you need to be carefull and separate the cost of the hardware versus the cost of the software. It gets a little blurry with ProTools. Up until ProTools M-Powered, you couldn't even buy ProTools software without their hardware.
You have to undersand that the reason ProTools HD systems cost so much is because of the processing cards.
reshp1
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While this is true, it does kinda piss me off that they purposely disable (ahem cripple) features in their LE software that have absolutely nothing to do with DSP processing cards. I mean, how many people are seriously going to ante up and drop the cash on a TDM system to get around stuff like 32 voice limitation? They gotta protect their cash cows though. I guess the fact that Ben, you and I all bought LE systems knowing full well of the limitations says that their probably making a smart business move. Still pisses me off though..Raw-Tracks said:
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DaddySaysSooooo
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Just jumping in with my exper with Pro tools M powered 6.8 and now 7.0 that you can use 2 delta 1010's. You just have to configure them correctly via pro tools. I used both with Cubase and now use them with PTMP. It runs 1-8 analog 9-10 spdip 11-18 analog 20-22 spdif
reshp1
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Awesome thanks. One more thing LE users get to be jealous about.DaddySaysSooooo said:
Just kidding, thanks, that's useful information.
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DaddySaysSooooo
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No problem!!!!
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chamelious
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Yeah i guess i ment more of the stuff like 32 voice limitation etc.
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Raw-Tracks
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DaddySaysSooooo said:
Wow, that's fantastic! Have you heard of anyone using more than one of any of the other M-Audio cards? In other words, does that only work with the Delta-1010. I would assume that if it works with the Delta-1010, it would work with other Delta series cards.
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DaddySaysSooooo said:
interesting...and Pro Tools automatically sees both in the I/O setup window?
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DaddySaysSooooo
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Not sure if it will run anything else other then 2 delta 1010's. I have looked all over and cant find anywhere official that says it DOESNT recoknize 2 of them. But it did so automaticly.
LemonTree
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it's a scam..get over it
TAE
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DaddySaysSooooo said:
I'm waiting for my m-powered software to arrive. I have a 1010 and a couple of 66 cards so I'll experiment and comment after I get it.. Last e-mail said in about 2 weeks I should have it.. with traveling and Christmas I will be lucky to experiment before the new year but I will post back as soon as I do.
Where you located DaddysaysSoo?
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JVanco
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TAE said:
I'll be so happy if it works...it is my Christmast wish for this year...
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JuliánFernández
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Hey LemonTree, can you post the link where you found this compatibility issue?
Thanks!
Thanks!
bennychico11
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oh, I got negative rep for my reply earlier....and from an anonymous person, no doubt! Good job!!! You really got me!!!!