jugalo180
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which one of these cards in anyone's opinion would offer the best pro sound out of the three?
Slackmaster2K
Gone
The lynx, but it's just a stereo card!
Slackmaster 2000
Slackmaster 2000
jugalo180
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The lynx, but it's just a stereo card!
okay slackmaster, what would be in your own humble opinion th pros and cons about the lynx, and it being a stereo card?
okay slackmaster, what would be in your own humble opinion th pros and cons about the lynx, and it being a stereo card?
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ap
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LynxTwo was reviewed in June's EQ magazine. Apparently the LynxOne is similar but w/o 192 kHz and some as yet unused expansion capabilities. Lynx seems to have some impressive sounding video syncing stuff I don't really understand or care about. The reviewer went on about how great the converters are supposed to be.
The LynxTwo comes in 3 configurations: 4 analog ins and outs, 2 ins and 6 outs, or 6 ins and 2 outs.
I've heard alot about the 1010 converters suppossed to be pretty good. I've got the 1010 and am pretty happy with it.
The LynxTwo comes in 3 configurations: 4 analog ins and outs, 2 ins and 6 outs, or 6 ins and 2 outs.
I've heard alot about the 1010 converters suppossed to be pretty good. I've got the 1010 and am pretty happy with it.
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drumsagogo
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I'd also be interested in any opinions on the lynx. I was looking at the lynx2 with 4 i/o's earlier today and thinking it might work out well for me. I also have one of their microlynx synchronizers that I use with my 2" machine and have called their tech support before with questions. They don't even support microlynx anymore, but the guy still spent some time on the phone with me and answered my questions.
I had been contemplating using a digital input into the computer & just and buying a pair of nice external convertors, but then realized I will need 4 outputs (though I only need 2 in). It's not cheap, but the lynx2 seems like it would fit the bill nicely....I'll have to check that review.
I had been contemplating using a digital input into the computer & just and buying a pair of nice external convertors, but then realized I will need 4 outputs (though I only need 2 in). It's not cheap, but the lynx2 seems like it would fit the bill nicely....I'll have to check that review.
Slackmaster2K
Gone
The big difference is price/converter. The LynxOne just has 2 ins & outs, and the LynxTwo has been discussed above. I think the LynxOne runs at like $450 and the LynxTwo at around $1000 or more.
In contrast, you can get a Delta1010 with 8 ins & outs, plus MIDI, word clock, and SPDIF, for something around $500-600.
Another thing to consider is that Lynx drivers have been slow coming around. LynxTwo ASIO 2 is still a beta and I don't think either of them support low-latency WDM.
I believe the LynxOne was intended more as a mastering card, and I do believe that it has better converters than something like the Delta, although I have not heard the Lynx personally. I think the LynxTwo just sort of expands upon that idea, and includes crazy converters that can do 200khz! However, the Delta series might be more *usable*, depending on what you need to do. It doesn't matter how good something sounds if it doesn't do what you want it to do.
Everybody wants "as close to pro" as possible, but you might not even be able to tell the difference. You didn't mention what level you're currently at..... a lot of people will swear that they can't hear the difference between a Soundblaster Live! and the better systems out there. It took me about a year before I finally grasped the concept of what my converters were doing to the sound, at which point I upgraded from a soundblaster to Delta44. It took me almost a freakin year after that to finally start hearing the impact the Delta's converters were having, at which time I upgraded to a Delta1010 (because I got it cheap, actually). I can tell the difference between the 1010 and 44, and I can also hear what the 1010, despite it having "good" converters", does to the sound. I still have to record and playback a sound to hear what it truely sounds like.
Without getting too carried away, you can just plug into something by m-Audio or Echo or MOTU or Aardvark and make recordings that are way better than anything a home enthusist has ever been able to make. If you've never used a good soundcard you'll be just floored by how easy it'll be to get a good enough sound. I would focus more on whether the system will work for you, and less on which one will sound more pro...becasue really, pro sound has to come from you. The $300-500 difference between the Lynx and Delta (for instance) can make some room for decent cables or a nice preamp or microphone or sound treatment or......................
Slackmaster 2000
In contrast, you can get a Delta1010 with 8 ins & outs, plus MIDI, word clock, and SPDIF, for something around $500-600.
Another thing to consider is that Lynx drivers have been slow coming around. LynxTwo ASIO 2 is still a beta and I don't think either of them support low-latency WDM.
I believe the LynxOne was intended more as a mastering card, and I do believe that it has better converters than something like the Delta, although I have not heard the Lynx personally. I think the LynxTwo just sort of expands upon that idea, and includes crazy converters that can do 200khz! However, the Delta series might be more *usable*, depending on what you need to do. It doesn't matter how good something sounds if it doesn't do what you want it to do.
Everybody wants "as close to pro" as possible, but you might not even be able to tell the difference. You didn't mention what level you're currently at..... a lot of people will swear that they can't hear the difference between a Soundblaster Live! and the better systems out there. It took me about a year before I finally grasped the concept of what my converters were doing to the sound, at which point I upgraded from a soundblaster to Delta44. It took me almost a freakin year after that to finally start hearing the impact the Delta's converters were having, at which time I upgraded to a Delta1010 (because I got it cheap, actually). I can tell the difference between the 1010 and 44, and I can also hear what the 1010, despite it having "good" converters", does to the sound. I still have to record and playback a sound to hear what it truely sounds like.
Without getting too carried away, you can just plug into something by m-Audio or Echo or MOTU or Aardvark and make recordings that are way better than anything a home enthusist has ever been able to make. If you've never used a good soundcard you'll be just floored by how easy it'll be to get a good enough sound. I would focus more on whether the system will work for you, and less on which one will sound more pro...becasue really, pro sound has to come from you. The $300-500 difference between the Lynx and Delta (for instance) can make some room for decent cables or a nice preamp or microphone or sound treatment or......................
Slackmaster 2000
sonusman
Banned
I own a Lynx One card and the studio I work at has a Delta 10/10. So, I can comment.
If you only need a couple of converters that are very high quality, then the Lynx One is a DEAL at it's $400 price. While the Delta sounds okay, stuff I have recorded using it just didn't sound as good, and when I have tried using it while "mastering" stereo mixes (the Delta that is) I was always hearing distortion before there was really any distortion to hear. The Lynx is famous for it's high headroom, and the hardware "mixer" interface has very accurate metering which is in real time.
Slackmaster has made some good points about the differences between the two cards. If you are on a budget, the Delta stuff is for you. Depending on the rest of your gear and monitoring in your studio, you might not really notice much difference. But if high quality A/D/A conversions are of a concern to you, then the Lynx One or Two is a superior card to the Delta line.
Ed
If you only need a couple of converters that are very high quality, then the Lynx One is a DEAL at it's $400 price. While the Delta sounds okay, stuff I have recorded using it just didn't sound as good, and when I have tried using it while "mastering" stereo mixes (the Delta that is) I was always hearing distortion before there was really any distortion to hear. The Lynx is famous for it's high headroom, and the hardware "mixer" interface has very accurate metering which is in real time.
Slackmaster has made some good points about the differences between the two cards. If you are on a budget, the Delta stuff is for you. Depending on the rest of your gear and monitoring in your studio, you might not really notice much difference. But if high quality A/D/A conversions are of a concern to you, then the Lynx One or Two is a superior card to the Delta line.
Ed
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drumsagogo
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I don't know about you jugalo180, but I've decided on the lynx. After some extensive searching and research there seems to be a consensus that it's the superior sounding card (like Ed Said).
Also, just to clarify, after looking at the Lynx website I realized I called Timeline (not Lynx studio) about the microlynx.
Also, just to clarify, after looking at the Lynx website I realized I called Timeline (not Lynx studio) about the microlynx.
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pglewis
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Slack touched on this, but the number of inputs you'll need should really be considered on this purchase. If you ever plan to record a drum kit then I'd definitely suggest getting something with 8-ins. Even if you think 4 inputs will be enough for now, you may find yourself wanting more later on.
I trust Ed's ears so I've little doubt that the Lynx card has superior sound quality. But you should also realize that sonusman usually has a pretty good signal chain from start to finish when he records. Good players, good instruments, good mics and pres... that's when the subtle stuff in the converters comes out more. If you're at that level and are sure you'll never need more inputs then I'm pretty sure Lynx card will make you happy.
I trust Ed's ears so I've little doubt that the Lynx card has superior sound quality. But you should also realize that sonusman usually has a pretty good signal chain from start to finish when he records. Good players, good instruments, good mics and pres... that's when the subtle stuff in the converters comes out more. If you're at that level and are sure you'll never need more inputs then I'm pretty sure Lynx card will make you happy.
sonusman
Banned
Gosh, I don't know pglewis, I use the same ol' crap gear that many around here use to track. SM-57's and AT 40 series mics, and usually the ART Dual MP as a pre. Event 20/20's, etc.... Yes, I get to track sometimes using Oram, Drawmer, Focusrite, Neve, etc...but what is funny is that a lot of times, I just don't get as good of results in that studio.
The difference between the Lynx and the Delta are immediately clear to my ears. I am not saying that you cannot do some pretty good sounding production with a Delta card. I think you can. I totally agree that this purchase right now should be based around the required number of inputs needed. The Delta card doesn't sound that much worse. If it was all I had, I wouldn't bitch too much about it. But, if a little better signal path IS needed, or you want to "step up" your productions, the Lynx product line is a very affordable way to do so. For the Lynx Two, the 6 In 2 Out option would be best suited for people doing all their mixing on a computer. The 4 In 4 Out is best for those that need balance on inputs and outputs. The 2 In 6 Out is best for those who only track mono/stereo stuff but mix on an analog mixer. Yes, you would need to run a couple of them to start making them usefull in real production environments, and that will set you back about $2000 for two Lynx Two's. But, for that many I/O of QUALITY conversion, that is CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!!
Anyway. I love my Lynx One card for what it is, and consider the $425 I paid for it almost three years ago to be well worth the money spent. It hasn't really disappointed me at all.
Ed
The difference between the Lynx and the Delta are immediately clear to my ears. I am not saying that you cannot do some pretty good sounding production with a Delta card. I think you can. I totally agree that this purchase right now should be based around the required number of inputs needed. The Delta card doesn't sound that much worse. If it was all I had, I wouldn't bitch too much about it. But, if a little better signal path IS needed, or you want to "step up" your productions, the Lynx product line is a very affordable way to do so. For the Lynx Two, the 6 In 2 Out option would be best suited for people doing all their mixing on a computer. The 4 In 4 Out is best for those that need balance on inputs and outputs. The 2 In 6 Out is best for those who only track mono/stereo stuff but mix on an analog mixer. Yes, you would need to run a couple of them to start making them usefull in real production environments, and that will set you back about $2000 for two Lynx Two's. But, for that many I/O of QUALITY conversion, that is CHEAP CHEAP CHEAP!!!
Anyway. I love my Lynx One card for what it is, and consider the $425 I paid for it almost three years ago to be well worth the money spent. It hasn't really disappointed me at all.
Ed
jugalo180
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i have it
i now have the lynx one soundcard. the only problem i have with it right now is trying to get it to record 24/96 inside of cubase sx, or getting cubase sx to recognize the card is 24/96 capable.
i now have the lynx one soundcard. the only problem i have with it right now is trying to get it to record 24/96 inside of cubase sx, or getting cubase sx to recognize the card is 24/96 capable.
Cyrokk
Farce of Nature
I've been debating whether to go with a lynx or delta myself. I've decided to do all the mixing on an analog console, which means a minimum of 8 outs is a must for me (hell, I would really like about 10 or 12 outs, but that is completely out of my price range). Plus, many here have considered the 1010 a better sound card than most cards within the same price range and functionality.. And the separate breakout box would eliminate a lot of hassles.
Cy
Cy
jugalo180
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lynx sounds good, but the 1010 may work better, just think about it..
to me it is a very good card, but then again i only had a soundblaster platinum before this one. the one piece of advice i would give you is to set your priority before you make that investment. i know that you want to get the best thing your money can afford. don't end up with something you have to go through the hassle of selling on ebay. not saying that is bad, because it helps out a bunch of newbies like myself to save money. think of what you need now, and what you will need 3-6 months down the line. the best (converter) to me is a plus if i can (notice) it. the efficiency to me would have the advantage if it meant sacraficing sound quality that is barely noticeable. just my 2 pennies. i'm a newbie but i'm learning from the best. thanks to all the guys on this forum that have been taking me under thier aprenticeship.
to me it is a very good card, but then again i only had a soundblaster platinum before this one. the one piece of advice i would give you is to set your priority before you make that investment. i know that you want to get the best thing your money can afford. don't end up with something you have to go through the hassle of selling on ebay. not saying that is bad, because it helps out a bunch of newbies like myself to save money. think of what you need now, and what you will need 3-6 months down the line. the best (converter) to me is a plus if i can (notice) it. the efficiency to me would have the advantage if it meant sacraficing sound quality that is barely noticeable. just my 2 pennies. i'm a newbie but i'm learning from the best. thanks to all the guys on this forum that have been taking me under thier aprenticeship.