looking for a mic with too much hi end

[Lo-Fi Mike]

hello guys,
I'm looking for a mic with too much hi end response.
what i want to do with this mic is record vocals for the beginning of a song.
I want the vocals to sound sorta lo fi and cheap, then when the song kicks in i will fire up my ma 200.
I've tried this before in the past, buy eq'ing the vocal to sound like a telephone, but they still sounded like they were recorded with a nice mic.

I thought about using a dynamic mic, but i want a lot of crispy hi end with not so much bottom.

I also want to use this mic in conjunction with an sm57 on snare drum, so that i can catch a crispy crack sound from the snare, then blend it in with the 57.

I've done some research and came up with an MXL 909 or an MXL V57m.

any help with my situation, or experience with these mics would be greatly appreciated.

---mike---

 

[omtayslick]

Don't forget to look for "Made in China" on the label.

 

[Lo-Fi Mike]

usless

Don't forget to look for "Made in China" on the label.

either your being sarcastic, and your response didnt help me at all.

or your being serious, and you just narrowed my search down to hundreds of mics.

I guess every forum needs the occasional useless information.

 

[kojdogg]

i think he's referring to the tendency of cheaper chinese mics to be tuned to have exaggerated high end response.

the thing is though, it's a little confusing about what you're asking for-- the "telephone effect" by eq/filter will generally sharply drop out high and low frequencies except for the most prominent speech ones in a narrow range. that will not get you "too much hi end response," just probably narrow mid range response and nothing else.

there are other factors involved too-- i can say having owned a blue bluebird, a blue blueberry in the past and now a blue kiwi, that blue mics tend towards being bright (frequency response charts will bear this out), but that it is implemented in a more sonically pleasing (i.e. brighter with a minimum of added sibilance or "spittiness") way than the lower end mxl mics do it due to better circuits (components and design). ymmv.

could you possibly achieve what it sounds like you're going for by using a high pass filter and going well beyond the typical 120hz? just set the eq for hpf and try it with increasingly higher frequencies. in my experience, other nifty tools for doing that kind of thing for vocals can be amp simulators (plugin or hardware-- sansamps and pods are good for that kind of thing) at moderate settings and tape simulation plugins.

 

[timthetortoise]

Look no further
1000KHz response, there's your hyped high end!

 

[PhilGood]

If you're looking for that "telephone" sound, take any mic and pull out all the frequencies as much as possible except for 1khz and boost that as much as you can.

Instant "telephone" sound.

 

[nuemes]

Hi-end

Telefunken Ela-M 251

 

[omtayslick]

either your being sarcastic, and your response didnt help me at all.

or your being serious, and you just narrowed my search down to hundreds of mics.

I guess every forum needs the occasional useless information.

Sorry. It was an attempt at humor. But as with most jokes, it must contain an element of truth to be funny. Here's another one: This forum is FULL of useless information. (fortunately it also contains useful information)

And yes, I was referring to the tendency of mics maufactured in China to have exagerrated highs. If you want a serious recommendation for a mic with too much nasty high end, how about a Behringer B-1?

And no offense intended. I like to kid around. See, I'm not always "usless".

 

[danny.guitar]

Hm, I'd personally get a cheap, reasonably flat SDC mic (Naiant MSH? Behringer ECM8000?) and boost the high end with an EQ. Then you're not stuck with whatever "exaggerated highs" the mic has, you can exaggerate them however you want. And you'll still have a good mic to use for other things.

 

[Lo-Fi Mike]

Sorry. It was an attempt at humor. But as with most jokes, it must contain an element of truth to be funny. Here's another one: This forum is FULL of useless information. (fortunately it also contains useful information)

And yes, I was referring to the tendency of mics maufactured in China to have exagerrated highs. If you want a serious recommendation for a mic with too much nasty high end, how about a Behringer B-1?

And no offense intended. I like to kid around. See, I'm not always "usless".

thanks a-lot slick, I'll look into the b-1.
by the way, do you think it would hold up as long as other Chinese mics, or are they all about the same?

---mike---

p.s. sorry for getting offended yesterday

 

[kojdogg]

thanks a-lot slick, I'll look into the b-1.
by the way, do you think it would hold up as long as other Chinese mics, or are they all about the same?

The Mojave Audio MA-200 you're using is made in China too incidentally.

 

[omtayslick]

The Mojave Audio MA-200 you're using is made in China too incidentally.

OOOPS! My bad! The Mojave is a very nice mic.

Also, don't know anything about the Behringer B1, except a guitar center try out once. It was easily the nastiest, most piercing mic in the store.

 

[zed32]

sounds like you're looking for a Lo-Fi Mike.

 

[spinaltap]

im gettin´ a pair of behringer c-2`s on wensday. (i`ll use them for live acustics)
as far as i know those are pretty airy mics. i'll try them out with vocals and tell you about it

 

[giraffe]

get an old phone, rip the mic out of the reciever and attach the 2 leads to a severed instrument cable.

run it into a di then a pre, direct in to a 1/4 in on a pre, or for real fun put it in an amp and.................


TA-DA
crap.

 

[Erockrazor]

sounds like you're looking for a Lo-Fi Mike.

We have a winner.

You should check out one of those cheap computer mic's. the telephone sound is mid-rangey because our speaking voices are midrange. One of those computer mic's will be designed for speech and be a good starting point.

 

[giraffe]

seriously people.

phones HAVE mic's in them.

 

[kojdogg]

get an old phone, rip the mic out of the reciever and attach the 2 leads to a severed instrument cable.

run it into a di then a pre, direct in to a 1/4 in on a pre, or for real fun put it in an amp and.................


TA-DA
crap.

yep-- it sounds like crap for sure... make sure it has an old-fashioned carbon element:
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showpost.php?p=2786795&postcount=1

 

[danny.guitar]

Instant, extremely crappy sounding telephone effect.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=10153

 

[TelePaul]

Sing into guitar pickups!!!!!!!!!