Long Gone: Instrumental

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Nice guitar work. :) The acoustic sounds very personal. The elec soloing sounds well thought out and the bit of intensity around 3:15 adds a lot.

I'm thinking brighter solo electrics....
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I agree

Yeah...fake drums.
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They're OK, except for the cymbals, haha.:p

Not a fan of midi and synthy stuff in general so won't comment on the piano sound, strings, etc. except to say that I think the flute worked the best, sonically. The piece itself is quite nice in an easy listening way and very well arranged.
 
I started work on monitors the next day...major moofage in the mids to be scooped. And still gotta get something on the solos.

Doing what I can with what I have.

Aside from changing the cymbals so I don't get subsequent, identical hits, what can I do to get them sounding better, if anything??
 
Jeff, This song is very complete. The composition is great, the playing is great, the mix is great. I'm not great at drum mixing, so I'll leave that to the experts. I can totally see this on some disney channel show. Video montage of some quirky sports team, i.e. the mighty ducks, season highlights, pranking, high fiving, schmucky stuff video. Has that uplifting melody to it.

The only thing I didn't think was great was the piano sound again. Sounds real Roland-ish and synthy. Are those midi patches, or recorded straight from a synth? If they are midi, I think you could get a more realistic piano sound for not much.

This for instance: http://www.tonehammer.com/?page_id=3575

Only $129 for some crazy good sounding piano patches.
 
that was great Jeff...nice to hear one of yours again...

I thought the drums sounded fine too...the piano did sound a bit like it was from a roland...I have the JV SR piano expansion which hugely improves the stock sounds...true pianos sounds pretty good too...though I thought those ones were fine as well..
 
This is great! Love your acoustic guitar sounds & the variety of textures - whew! you've really thrown the book at this one... Only criticism of the mix is that the electric guitar sounds a little muddy in the bottom end - outstanding playing, though! With the high quality of the rest of the instruments, its a shame that you don't have better drum sounds - They are definitely the weakest link, but certainly not a deal breaker - there are so many great sounding virtual drums out there - replacing these with something more realistic would be a sinch. Great job!
 
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yeah speaking of drums I got the Abbey Road 70s kit for kontakt a few weeks back and I bet them or the 60s kits would work brilliantly with your stuff Jeff...they are probably the best Ive heard out there so far...certainly the cymbals are :)
 
Okay... I've *got* to make time for this one. I don't care if you use the tracks or not, but I'm gonna drum to this', and keep my end of the deal.
 
Sounds very good! I don't really have any problems with this mix.
 
Thanks much for the comments and suggestions!

I've done a lot to the mix, and I should have the result posted by the end of the weekend.

Tried to improve the piano with slight flange and some mid scoopage. I think it's closer to reality....the samples are direct from stock Roland synth. I have an expander...not that one...but the 'piano 1' patch is still the best of them all...and falling short.

All investments in new stuff is on hold. Have some domestic issues, involving lawyers, to clear up this year. *sigh*


I'm holding off until I can get a new 4-core mega puter, and a real good SOTA sample library. Maybe a year away. No sense spending away on half-measures I can't afford, anyway. :^)

So I'll continue making the most of this $5000 studio for now!


PI...Anytime you feel inclined to do something, I'll send you the final mix sans drums. I'll do it and park it until you have some time.
 
I've been meaning to give this a listen. I'll wait for the new mix.
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=825703&songID=9163594

New mix and inst master up.
Some delay on r&l guits....tweaked solo and other guits....mostly pan and enveloping.
My next one's gonna be a lot simpler.

Hey, Guitzero....received that package. :^) Are you satisfied with the overall freq range?? I've listened on two car players. Have to jack the trebs up full. I can't seem to load it on my puter...is there a c'right protection that detects a ripping function and disallows copy??? Wanted to see the graph for myself.

I think I liked your quick and dirty master better!

Gerg...right off the bat, it hits me that the snare needs more schnapp. :^)
 
I think it's pretty good. Snare sounds fine to me. I think the kick and snare could both be a hair louder. Just a hair. They get lost at times. As the song builds momentum, the low end starts to stack up a little much. Not bad though for a really full mix.
 
It sounded very good to me, big and wide, and everything sits clearly. I'm not a drummer, but the drums sound pretty good to me, although I agree with Greg's comment above that they could be just a tad louder in spots.

There was nice development of the theme and melody throughout that kept it interesting. Great work.

I'm just curious, if you sell something like that to TV or film, would they typically only use about 15 seconds of it, or how does that end up working out? If that's the case, you might have several compositions in one with this :)

Best Regards,

Dave DeWhitt

http://www.soundclick.com/davedewhitt
 
Pretty good tune Jeff, this is something for the TV travel channel.....:D

The mix sounds great to me, the only thing I noticed, especially in the beginning, were some timing hitches. Nothing serious though, it's a very well thought out tune.

Joey :)
 
I'm listening with h/phones & in the early bits the piano & guitar seem to fight each other - and the piano is very, very bright.
The gliss at 1.15 is a bit startling.
Drums sound is fine to my ears.
I like the little Brian May section.
 
joeym said:
Pretty good tune Jeff, this is something for the TV travel channel.....:D

The mix sounds great to me, the only thing I noticed, especially in the beginning, were some timing hitches. Nothing serious though, it's a very well thought out tune.

Joey :)
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Yeah...the piano strikes some chords a little behind the beat. Conflicted about sanitizing it too much. A little scuzz vs. robotic accuracy.....
 
rayc said:
I'm listening with h/phones & in the early bits the piano & guitar seem to fight each other - and the piano is very, very bright.
The gliss at 1.15 is a bit startling.
Drums sound is fine to my ears.
I like the little Brian May section.
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You're right. I was thinking I could raise the piano an octave for the 2 bars...or just edit out one or the other. Suggestion?
 
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Typically, a client licenses whatever they want in a tune....from 1 second to the whole thing. Time used, and exclusivity of use, affect the price...along with the quality of the work and the demand for a partucular composer.

Take a TV or radio serial......they like to have a main introduction theme...and related variations to use throughout the show...and a closing theme, also related, musically. If they can get that material in one work, it saves them money. And it can make a work with a lot of variation attractive to a producer. One of the things NOT in this work is a time-change. And that's a good thing to have....I keep listening to broadcasts, and take notice of the music, and how it's used. These observations are based upon attentive listening, mostly. It's where I want to be, so I try to educate myself.

If you want to hear a great example of one tune with variation used in a broadcast, I can recommend "Truth for Life" a Christian sermon radio broadcast. The music is great, and all taken from one work with a lot of variation. Just go to the website, and click onto any half-hour sermon. Listen to the music. It's a great orchestral piece, probably MIDI. And the composer is making some serious air-time money on it. The outfit is on a tight budget....they get the most for their buck in this single work.

So...I do try to let things morph. If a client likes a particular part, he can loop it. I get credited for total time of broadcast. A 10-second loop played for a minute is a minute of creditable time for a composer!

But, also, I remind myself that I should just follow whatever muse, and create what I hear in my head. A lot of the variation in this one just came as I was assembling it. Not every turn was pre-conceived. Just happened as I went. I think if I tried to plan everything, it wouldn't be as good as what intuition and inspiration can do. But knowing that variation can be really good, it keeps my less creative impulses from ruining ideas that come from a better place.

I just make stuff....and hope that someone likes it. I hope I like it.....not always....but someone else might. There's someone I know who raved about my worst tune....the one I'm most embarrassed by.
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